N/a R33 Vs N/a R34

[bozodos]

I'd rather attempt to eat my own vomit than even be seen in a R33 4 door lol. They look like a Camry with a facelift

[Ar0d0x]

r32 with a rb25de, set of extractors, coilpacks, gtr lsd, and a power fc.... dicks both r33 and r34 by car lengths

Agreed

[mad082]

I'd rather attempt to eat my own vomit than even be seen in a R33 4 door lol. They look like a Camry with a facelift

i don't think that i can agree with this statement. i think you are being offensive to camry's.

they are much better looking cars than r33 sedans.

[s15_stylez]

could also try and save a bit more and look at buying/importing an autech s15.

been looking around to see what to get after i finish my s13 and have found some decently priced autechs in sydney. i must admit, though, some going around have been violated with some interesting mods.... who puts a turbo timer on an n/a?

[R34 -_-]

what the f*ck are you doing in this forum?

[mad082]

spamming obviously

[Pal]

hes gone on a holiday for a week thanks for letting me know guys.

[Mooney]

buy a 32 with 25

[PandaR33]

Have you thought of maybe a sprinter with a 4age or 20 valve. the waight smashs the fact it hasn't got much power.

[bozodos]

cause they are worth $$$$$$$$$$$$$ even before the p plate restrictions were in! would be boners to have one though

[PandaR33]

ke70 corolla? If you keep an eye out you the random cheap sprinter comes from time to time. keep an eye out on nissansilvia.com cars are allways heaps cheaper on there.

panda

Edited October 31, 2009 by PandaR33

[mad082]

you can pick up ke70 corollas pretty cheap if you know where to look. looking on forums is the worse place to find a ke70, because that's where all the young people are trying to sell them and they know what they are worth. you need to find one being sold by an older person as they will sell them dirt cheap. there was a stock standard grandpa spec (so it was tidy) one for sale around the corner from me a few months back for $1500, still registered with RWC. if i had any money at the time i would've bought it.

[l_uk3y]

I'd pick the 34 over the 33 due to being a bit fresher and nicer interior.

Other options if the NA Supra is out of the picture.

300zx (sure people are paying them out, Couple of mates here have had them (both NA), one stock, one lightly modified, neither have any problems and with a few subtle mods they look awesome.

S13/180. Stick with the handling mods.

Could be flamed here. but

Toyota MR2. (Don't see a lot these days but might be worth a look)

Honda with VTEC. (Very rice, very boy racer, Front wheel drive. But high revs)

Early/mid RX7, with NA rotary (lol i'm gonna get flamed bad)

[Jack-]

Get an AWD mitsubishi magna, most KW p-plate legal car bloke

[Galois]

wow, interesting read guys. I've spent a while looking for a car for my bro who's on his red p's.

You might have to compromise on the rwd if you want a really fun car.

The best thing I've come up with is an mx6 (which no-one has mentioned?). The ms6 is light, 1200kg, with 123kW (good power to weight). They're set up pretty tight stock and you could pull it up to 160kW with clean air. A bodykit of any type will help out the shocking fish look. I drove one a few months ago with a bum gearbox, it was still fun and nippy, and the sound was surprisingly enjoyable. Get the 2.6L v6, do it up then leave ppl stunned when you disappear. And lets face it, fwd is a bit safer, so if you pick a car based solely on rwd even though there were other better options you'll hate yourself if you drift a bit far or swerve to avoid something and write it off.

The old impreza's have a really good power to weight ratio and awd which would be really fun.

Also Honda prelude's and integras are worth a look. These may all be fwd but a tight revvy fwd will feel amazing coming from a lancer (or whatever you're driving, cant remember lol). In the days of the integra type-r, i read a review comparing it to the evo and wrx sti. The outcome was the best drivers car was the integra, even though it had fwd it was so tight and responsive.

300zx NA will probably struggle with the 1700kg its lugging round

180sx NA are underpowered but can look so good

200sx expensive and tho the sr20 is a great engine is must struggle sometimes with the low capacity and no turbo

supra expensive but a mate of mine has made the air flow really clean and pulls the same kW as a stock r34 gtt, and regularly out drags them. which is upsetting cos i have an r34 gtt.

and finally the awd mitsubishi magna listed above would be worth a test drive too. with its power-to-weight ration on an NA v6 its potentially a good fun car, and a wolf in sheeps clothing (ie: cops won't notice it, unlike most of the other cars mentioned in this forum)

just my thoughts anyways

[SKiT_R31]

S15 Autech edition, 150kW

Also, i think a Gen 2 Liberty Bilstien Edition would be a better option than an N/A impreza

[Galois]

... ok i was wrong about the 200sx autech edition, but they're rare aren't they? like only 1000 ever made? saw 2 expensive (>20grand) ones on drive.com but if you find one grab it, that'd be good fun

otherwise the s15 NA is down to 126kW, which is still great in a 1200kg car, but expensive

2nd gen liberty gt-b would be 123kW for 1422kg

1st gen impreza 123kW for 1220kg

The bilstein setup would give improved handling, but both have the same engine power (and possible the same engine). That being said, minor changes to an engine can make all the difference, you'd have to drive them and see what you think. There are other things like drivability and how the car looks that might change your mind

[SKiT_R31]

Liberty is a much better car than the impreza, and its actually 100kg lighter than you quoted and the handling is superb. You can get about 100kW at all fours with light mods, they can be quite snappy and bonus of AWD.

http://www.redbook.com.au/used-cars/detail...id=127676BD2518

I've seen a fair few Autechs around, just gotta wait and snap one up, yeah they're priced similar to the turbo's, I've seen them around $15-20k But they get the 6 speed etc and with around 120kW at the rears + that weight, they'd be worth holding out for.

Edited March 16, 2010 by SKiT_R31

[Galois]

i just used the wiki weight, and upon revisiting saw the word "max" next to it.

That link is pretty cheap. If you can get something fun for 7grand or less you're laughing. That's why I suggested the mx6: buy an ok one for 5gs, spend another 3 or 4 and have a tight, light, fast car.

That autech's probably going to be the fastest you can get stock on your P's. 150kW is insane, actually its pretty similar to a NA supra but weighs 200kg less.

After you buy this you can look forward to the turbo decisions: do you go skyline or other, do you get an r34 gtt or an r32 gtr for your dollars, stock-ish or modified, daily drive/weekender/racer. good, fun, poor times

edit:

actually, what is the quickest (not cheapest or most fun) P plate legal car?

Edited March 16, 2010 by Galois

[MikeRWK]

what about and r33 with r34 head + tuned ecu? should make some good power no?