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All i can say is.. advice was given to you from me and others...

alot of people come to deca's and say, why is everyone hitting the limiter so much and wheel spinning...

We were simply explaining that some times it IS more benificial to hold it on the limiter instead of changing gears..

and it IS more benificial to wheel spin off the line to get the boost up...

Yes i agree with you that excessive wheelspin off the line is just for show and not for going fast..

But this is not we are talking about...

Advice was given... you came back and told me and the others that we are doing it wrong..

You didn't listen and you didn't welcome our advice...

I respect what you do, and who you have contacts with..

But IMO nothing can teach you about driving as much as actually doing it...

You could be best mates with michael Schumacer,

but unless you get out on the track... you don't really know how to race a car...

We could argue for hours about this with no result...

As many people have said.. DECA is about the fun...

I can honestly say that the two DECA's i have done, I have not tried to get good times...

Its just a great big hoot...

I did listen to your advice. But you didn't rationalise it beyond "we all do this" and "we've done more DECA days than you". Could we have some physics or even logic behind it? Like the fact that most all wheel drive vehicles launch better than RWD and FWD vehicles simply because they maintain traction better off the line?

Excessive wheelspin off the line is what I'm talking about and have been talking about.

Who said I've never been out on the track? I confess it's been a couple of years since my last outing but that's a bad assumption. Thing is, the information I have put in this thread was typed with my boss sitting by my side watching me do it...the only difference is in the hands typing it. I'd be more than happy to introduce you to him if you'd sooner be discussing this with a "real racing driver" and not a pimply computer nerd. Either way you will get the same argument mate.

DECA is about the fun. I never touched on the fun side of things...right from the start my comments were regarding bettering the lap times, not how to have fun. People make habit of taking my words out of their specific original context, for whatever reason.

Also, I don't understand why people are reading the thread if they don't like reading this discussion? If it makes you feel somewhat superior mocking people for having discussion on an internet forum then perhaps you need to question why you are reading it in the first place? That's akin to watching Big Brother and saying the people in the house are sad...

i think both opinions are right. i understand what birds is saying with getting faster times and stuff but this thread needs to go back to being fun again, so all we need is some dragons, and not just any dragons they need to be red dragons lol.

SOFT...all this homo talk about how to drive! I bet nobody drank for 4 hours, necked a VB long neck then hit the strippers for a further 6hours of sauce, poles, shafts and bus stop action :rolleyes:

And for the record, skidpan, LIMITER IS KING!

Was this prior to or after DECA lol? I did head up on the Saturday after about 4 hours sleep and picking up my friend from the western suburbs of Melbourne (I live in the east). Fair wrecked by the time I got to DECA but very awake when the car action started :down:

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Will a red car do?

oh yeh all the kool kids are going to have that next DECA :rolleyes:

limiter bashing at DECA??? have you not been to a VicDrift event....

some ppl like burnouts, some ppl like going fast, some ppl like sliding. meh each to their own.

Was this prior to or after DECA lol? I did head up on the Saturday after about 4 hours sleep and picking up my friend from the western suburbs of Melbourne (I live in the east). Fair wrecked by the time I got to DECA but very awake when the car action started :rolleyes:

Let us introduce you to Troy.... He is KING.

Nothing compares. haha!

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