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Dealers are a special breed, their aint tricks jst remember that behind their fake smiles, they are esentially retards who will screw you everytime. They know that if they sell a car, they get money and although you wont be back, they will have another person to trick in a jiffy.

treat the car like a leper, get it inspected fully, then see what its worth....offer that and dont pay anymore, they wanna sell it then good. Make sure you get them to organise paperwork very fast and get the car asap so they cant go for a last thrashing, remove parts etc; even take an odo reading.

Im only 22 but have experienced, 8 or 9 buys of new and used cars; 95% of dealers are all scum!

That's why the Service Dept in many Dealerships has a separate BBQ from the Sales Dept on a Fri.

Even they can't stand their guts.

And poor old Detailers? Even they have the sense to have a beer and banger with the Service Dept. :P

Thanks doozooby & johnny, some interesting thoughts :)

I managed to get my 1st car down only $300 :) , was very disappointed. I'm looking at buying a new car at the start of this next year; I hate dealing with 2nd hand dealers, but I dealt with so many dodgy private sellers that I ended up resigning to the fact that if it costs an extra grand or 2 then I at least get a 3 month warranty if there are any issues..

I liked the practice buying idea, I guess it's like going to a couple of real estate auctions before the real thing.

A little of topic but

Does anyone know redbook values are accurate, or im guessing its only a guide.

But is it something that I can say to the dealer.... ie "Redbook has it valued at $xx,xxx price" or price bracket

I'm guessing he'll just be like... yeah but there a guide anyway... I hate car dealers :)

Edited by ekul24

The whole automotive world is smoke mirrors and shonk.

Find the car/cars you're realy interested in then get on Redbook and find out what the buy & sell price is , remember when you drive it off the yard it's only worth what you can sell it for, to a dealer, not what the rrp may be, or what you just payed, or Freddy the duckwit moder says it is.

And I'll tell you what a dealer will pay--bottom trade wholesale less around 15%, anything over is just emotion--yours.

So it's up to you, have a go price carefully thought through before you start to negotiate and walk away if it isn't met, it's not your concern if a car owes a dealer to much and he can't do the deal, remember -there's always a better one round the corner.

:)

i wanted a series 1 stagea at a local dealer - he wanted $12500

i offered $10,500 as the car had been there for almost a year

over a period of a month going in and trying to push him down i eventually offered $12k but he still wouldn't budge on the extra $500 or wipe stamp duty.

i said its not worth the total $13XXX with tax and said i can go to brizzy to get one far cheaper...

he said do it!

so i got on a train for 5 hours - bought a prime as, lower km series 2 for $10,500 although unseen and drove it home.

i laughed when the dealer was out and about, saw my car while it was parked and went for a gander at it

i unlocked the car as i approached it and drove off, his face was priceless LOL

Yeah its easy for you guys to do that in the eastern states but there's 4000klms separating us. (I'm in WA)

I'm thinking of importing or yeah going to eastern states cars are soooo much cheaper in NSW!

I'm looking for a V35 btw

Edited by ekul24
Thanks doozooby & johnny, some interesting thoughts :happy:

I managed to get my 1st car down only $300 :) , was very disappointed. I'm looking at buying a new car at the start of this next year; I hate dealing with 2nd hand dealers, but I dealt with so many dodgy private sellers that I ended up resigning to the fact that if it costs an extra grand or 2 then I at least get a 3 month warranty if there are any issues..

I liked the practice buying idea, I guess it's like going to a couple of real estate auctions before the real thing.

LOL @ this thread!

Do your homework and know what you are talking about, You will only ever buy private!!

God..You sound like you have no automotive knowledge

LOL @ this thread!

Do your homework and know what you are talking about, You will only ever buy private!!

God..You sound like you have no automotive knowledge

Not true private isn't always the way, there's dodgey sellers in the private and dealer sections of the market.

Like the above post said.

If you persevere with dealers you can bring them down.

I just got dealer down from $34,550 down to $29,500. Its still too much but just shows!!!

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