Can A Stock R33 Beat A Civic/integra Type R/s?

[gotRICE?]

Ooh. I also midread the OP. DC5.. and he mentioned Type S. Bah, no comparison. Type S suck balls

[beehive]

i have a r33 with exhaust, intake and intercooler mods havn't touched boost but a slight increase due to better flow, i also got a dc2vtir with a type r b18. i've gotten sum1 else to drive them with me to compare and on a straight the 33wins... though by 1 half car lenghts.. but when it comes to alot of corners the teg is alot easier to drive and pips it by more then a few lengths.. im talking bends followed by bends though.. not queensland raceway type tracks.. my 2 cents, not that it'll mean much

[streatracer]

Being from nz Iv owned/driven quite a few quick vtec hondas (the honda scene is a lot bigger in nz) and I personally think a decent driver in either of the cars mentioned should smoke a standard gtst. I had a straight up standing start race with a mint stock R33 and beat it to 180 in a 2.2 vtec prelude with a pod filter and intake pipe no other mods. (yes the skyline driver was a decent driver and was VERY surprised, as was I lol)

[Charles89]

Being from nz Iv owned/driven quite a few quick vtec hondas (the honda scene is a lot bigger in nz) and I personally think a decent driver in either of the cars mentioned should smoke a standard gtst. I had a straight up standing start race with a mint stock R33 and beat it to 180 in a 2.2 vtec prelude with a pod filter and intake pipe no other mods. (yes the skyline driver was a decent driver and was VERY surprised, as was I lol)

wow....the dude that drove the 33 must not have known what he was doing lol, and with people like him, it makes all those honda ricer boys think that they can beat any skyline lol

[Basti]

mate.. my stock gtst beat my mates Integra dc5r.. he had a few mods, still raped him like a goose. Reason why he sold his car.

/thread

you rape geese?

[streatracer]

wow....the dude that drove the 33 must not have known what he was doing lol, and with people like him, it makes all those honda ricer boys think that they can beat any skyline lol

I dont think people realise how ridiculously slow a stock R33 is (and i love 33s lol i got 3 of em)

stock they put 120kw to the wheels (depending on dyno) and theres plenty of hondas out there with that much power and more, and they weigh much less.

however once you start modding a skyline horsepower skyrockets and the hondas don't stand a chance

[boostn0199]

There is no chance of how a r33 turbo lose to a prelude, a old commordore will beat a prelude say vt onwards, 120kw? there more like the 150 mark stock at the wheels hondas like the prelude would be at the 100 at the wheels at most. i raced the latest prelude when my car was stock just pod and it pulls away literaly stright awway from the race the prelude cant even keep up at all

[gotRICE?]

E DRAGS! Roaar!

[beehive]

I dont think people realise how ridiculously slow a stock R33 is (and i love 33s lol i got 3 of em)

stock they put 120kw to the wheels (depending on dyno) and theres plenty of hondas out there with that much power and more, and they weigh much less.

however once you start modding a skyline horsepower skyrockets and the hondas don't stand a chance

lol ppl don't like to hear that here...

[beehive]

I dont think people realise how ridiculously slow a stock R33 is (and i love 33s lol i got 3 of em)

stock they put 120kw to the wheels (depending on dyno) and theres plenty of hondas out there with that much power and more, and they weigh much less.

however once you start modding a skyline horsepower skyrockets and the hondas don't stand a chance

lol ppl don't like to hear that here...

[Tony de Wonderful]

In the end. Different cars. Type R Civics/Integras arent drag cars. They are built as a streetable track weapon. And properly dirven will Rape an R33 on the track.

Properly driven around a go-kart circuit maybe, not on any 'normal' track. Are you forgetting the FWD?

[MBS206]

Lith, surprised you havnt mentioned mine. We discussed this exact topic last night kinda..?

I owned both, a DC2 Integra Type R, and now a 98 R33 GTS25t. And for the purpose of the topic, they were both on the same dyno, but NZ seem to have higher peak output than your Aussie dynos. So take the power as you will.

At the drags, my ITR did a 13.8 @ 100mph with semi slicks. (133fwkw) I/H/E stripped interior.

My R33 on street tires, (209rwkw), Stock airbox, stock dump, 3" front pipe back, r32 actuator and full interior 13.7 @ 101mph.

So if you bring them to the same level of modification then the Skyline will still have the edge. 60 foot times werent close, the ITR had it with no trouble. But the Skyline reels it in and still wins. Stick some semis on the Skyline, and im sure it will out launch, and kill it the whole way down.

And lets not forget our little race Lith0r.. we were more or less side by side 1st and 2nd, then your R33 started to pull away. No questions asked. Although yours didnt have the stock turbo, but a laggier version, it was still convincing once it got moving.

In the end. Different cars. Type R Civics/Integras arent drag cars. They are built as a streetable track weapon. And properly dirven will Rape an R33 on the track.

I know 33's arent drag cars either, but they have the power to push them in a straight line.

Tell your mate your convinced he will win. Put money on it. Profit.

Wait wait wait... So I was right... The Civic is quicker in the 1st two gears then the Skyline is...

Wow... Fancy that... The FWD POS run out of legs up top.

PS: As to comparing a Jazz to a honda "performance" car (I feel dirty using honda and performance in the same sentence with out the word *not*), you asked what I drive daily at the moment, you did not ask a list of Hondas I've been in and driven.

PPS: I don't keep a list of shit cars I've been in, so I can't clarify it perfectly for you...

[GTR-32U]

With all due respect to the Hondas, They absolutely fly around a tight circuit like wakefield. Twisty roads they are simply brilliantly engineered cars for handling and response

[R34GTFOUR]

I vote on driver ability.

Who every knows how to drive will win.

On the chance that both drivers are fully sik, skiz will take the cake.

[Justa32]

i rkn the honda will chop u up

[limited]

stock v stock would be very close, same mods- 33

[MUZT3K]

only read up to page 1, but anyways i got a stock 33 just with an exhaust, took on a brand new integra type r, kept up with me to 60 then both backed off because it turned into one lane

[Tony de Wonderful]

only read up to page 1, but anyways i got a stock 33 just with an exhaust, took on a brand new integra type r, kept up with me to 60 then both backed off because it turned into one lane

Who care? At the end of the day it's a CIVIC. When it corners hard it goes on three wheels and Grannies drive 'em. It's a Hatch. It's got retarded triangular mufflers, idiotic door handles, rear suspension like a tractor, and a gauge cluster like a something out of Halo.

Edited September 4, 2009 by Battery_backup

[Lithium]

Wait wait wait... So I was right... The Civic is quicker in the 1st two gears then the Skyline is...

He said more or less even in 1st and second, that doesn't mean faster - and I was running a laggier plain bearing VG30 turbo at the time due to my stock turbo blowing.

There is no chance of how a r33 turbo lose to a prelude, a old commordore will beat a prelude say vt onwards, 120kw? there more like the 150 mark stock at the wheels hondas like the prelude would be at the 100 at the wheels at most. i raced the latest prelude when my car was stock just pod and it pulls away literaly stright awway from the race the prelude cant even keep up at all

Don't agree with you there man, I happen to own both an R33 GTS25t and a 2.2VTEC Prelude (with just exhaust and intake) and I am pretty confident the Prelude would at least keep side by side with stock standard R33... I quietly suspect the Prelude would actually have the legs by a slight margain too. An R33 with the same mods however would be a different story. Power wise, I have attended a dyno day with my old Prelude with intake, extractors and exhaust which made the same or more power (141wkw) than two R32 GTSts that were attending... so a tad more than 100kw haha.

Edited September 4, 2009 by Lithium

[gotRICE?]

Don't agree with you there man, I happen to own both an R33 GTS25t and a 2.2VTEC Prelude (with just exhaust and intake) and I am pretty confident the Prelude would at least keep side by side with stock standard R33... I quietly suspect the Prelude would actually have the legs by a slight margain too. An R33 with the same mods however would be a different story.

OK i get the hint.. im on my way Lets test the theory at Marsden Airstrip.