Private Track Day!

[32godzilla]

Link added under pic - lucky VNC works well from Darwin!!

[heslo]

Link added under pic - lucky VNC works well from Darwin!!

You're the man!

[Tangles]

anyone got a pic of the stag?

[DSTROY]

I've done 2 track days, motorkhana and a number of spirited drives on my qfm a1rm pads and rda slotted rotors all round and theyre only about half worn.

i averaged on 1.30 at mallala on shitty street tyres and running 10psi (anyhting over computer has a fit). Minimal brake fade after 6-7 laps.

Theyre great value for money, and i will be getting another set once these are goneski.

Might also depend on the way you drive i guess, some people i know chew through pads and rotors no matter what they are.

I've done a time attack and the practice on Monday and my front QFM pads are probably about 70% worn. I do run brake ducting which probably makes a huge difference to disc temps and pad life.

[writeoff]

overall, i'm glad that i didn't break anything (i haven't noticed any problems yet!) and was very relieved that i didn't spin or go off road. the Spin King award should definitely go to David and his Pug for an impressive number of spins in one day! big points to him for driving that little 206 flat out all day.

It's a 205 GTI. Never confuse it with the 206!

I went to my mechanic today to drop off the helmet he lent me and he gave the car a quick once over. Apart from a clutch cable that came loose the little Pug was gold. He laughed about all my spins and asked if it was instant with no warning as he has had similar experiences with his rally car. I did do most of mine in the first 3 sessions (1st:3, 2nd:1, 3rd:4). For the rest of the day I actually stayed on the track for the most part considering I had nearly 2.5 hours of track time. But I'm proud of my spins and surely there are some photos!?

Taken from Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/205_Gti

"205 GTI: The GTI version came in 1.6-litre and 1.9-litre, in-line four cylinder configurations, and is considered one of the very best hot hatches of all time. Compared to modern cars they can be tricky to handle, due to their tendency towards rather sudden lift-off oversteer during hard cornering, and a complete absence of electronic driver aids. However once mastered, or in the hands of a skilled driver, these cars are still known to offer a very rewarding driving experience. The 205 GTI was certainly one of the first front wheel drive cars said by many motoring experts to be as rewarding to drive hard as an equivalent rear-wheel drive car."

I was still so excited when talking to my mechanic that he started listing the mods needed to turn it into a proper track car (sump baffle plate, another set of rims with track rubber, EBC Redstuff pads etc) and before I knew it I was nodding and agreeing until I realised what I was doing. I had to interrupt him saying that I can't afford to build another track car.

I had planned on selling the 205 next year for a more modern car with better safety features - because people keep hitting me. Now I may just hang onto the 205 for special occasions and the odd trackday. I never managed to get it to cock one of its rear wheels but not sure if that can be done on a standard car with only ~55fwkW. This is the dyno sheet of my current engine but when it was in another 205 GTI. Funnily enough I did a dyno run at Turbo Tune in 2002 on my original engine and did 62fwkW.

[V35-2005]

It's a 205 GTI. Never confuse it with the 206!

ahh, my uneducated mistake! mea culpa!

glad to hear that you had fun with it but don't get tempted to mod it more! focus on the GTR! (when u get it back)

[Blue32]

Well done to all involved - sounds like it was a great day. I would have loved to have been out, but while you guys were flying around Mallala, I was flying over Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and eventually Australia.

[rad100]

not good enough andrew haha..

well ill be organising another one in the near future..

had the most fun ever!!

[heslo]

I saw heaps of people snapping pics on the day, anyone got more to post?

[writeoff]

+1 for more photos. C'mon guys.

George what to your R34? I heard someone say it had a blocked radiator hose and that you had to pull over near the school just down the road from the track. Did you get back to Adelaide alright?

[scandyflick]

I saw heaps of people snapping pics on the day, anyone got more to post?

hows glenn and the other bloker (forgot his name) going with their photos?

[heslo]

hows glenn and the other bloker (forgot his name) going with their photos?

Getting them off them soon

[Adelaideprosound]

+1 for more photos. C'mon guys.

George what to your R34? I heard someone say it had a blocked radiator hose and that you had to pull over near the school just down the road from the track. Did you get back to Adelaide alright?

Hahahah i knew someone was going to ask . Well Once the morning session started and the first group went i nominated myself in the medium group, so off i went to get the internal camera ready so i was busy mounting that, just managed to pull out the baby seat out the back when the medium group wstarted. So me not wanting to miss out, i went out without adjusting my tyre pressures or my coilovers, so went out in full street trim. Didnt do any of the preparation i normally do. So off i went the car sliding like on ice because of the lack of adjustment, so i was having to correct on every corner and power out of it with rear wheels spinning to keep the car on the track. Lets just say it was an absolute cop, so while i was struggling with the car i completely forgot to keep an eye on my water temp level, and after 10 laps i finally noticed the water level was flashing red at me as all i had time for was to look at the oil gauge which never moved past 107 degress celcius in between nearly killing myself down the back straight due to lack of grip. Then there was the brand new brakes they were ferocious as all hell locking up everywhere as i fitted them a few days before hand so they werent bedded in yet so it all added up.

The car has never given me trouble before. and i do regular track days with the standard single core radiator, i guess trying to battle with the setup and waiting for some tyre temperature to provide some grip i had a lapse of judgement. So i tried to cool her down for two real slow laps, and she started responding but then when i drove out and parked the temp started rising and the radiator wouldnt suck the water back in as it was all in the overflow bottle. So i thought nah bugger it could be the head gasket so i packed up and left, as i was driving she kept getting hotter so i pulled over, switched the eingine off and let it cool down. In the meantime i checked my lap timer and i had a best time of 1.23.5 which i wasnt happy about i wish i could have improved on that with the correct adjustments but i spose its ok for street tyres. When she cooled donw a little the radiator sucked the water back in and i drove her back to the workshop where i stripped the coilpacks pulled out the spark plugs and did a comp test to check the head gasket. As it appears the head gasket is starting to show signs of wear so this is an excuse for me to install a new head with jun cams, an n1 oil pump, n1 water pump and a 55mm pwr radiator to eliminate any problems in the future.

So that was my fun for the day.

[Damo_R34]

those brakes definately should bite, they are bigger than most rims!

[Adelaideprosound]

Ill go out again in a couple of weeks and bed them in properly .

[writeoff]

[in response to Adelaideprosound]

Well I'm glad you made it back to Adelaide but sorry to hear about the head gasket. I had intended to come over and have a good look at your 34 but you had gone before I got around to it.

David [sLIDER] came around to my place on Tuesday night to help me set up a new toy and asked about you but I couldn't say much as I really only said hello to you when we were signing the forms at the start of the day.

Hopefully everything goes smoothly next track day, especially if you add those modifications.

[Adelaideprosound]

Yeh this is the first track day i had to retire early. But the car has served me well so now i have to give her some tender loving care and she will be as good as new . Tell Slider we will have to catch up one day soon .

[Damo_R34]

what sort of power is she spitting out George?

[Adelaideprosound]

315awkw at 20 psi with e85 fuel. I have a fully built head with 272 jun cams and tomei springs and valves on the way so with a pump upgrade should see around 400awkw with a slight increase in boost as i already have ball bearing garret turbos on it.

[gslrallysport]

I've done a time attack and the practice on Monday and my front QFM pads are probably about 70% worn. I do run brake ducting which probably makes a huge difference to disc temps and pad life.

Just remember also that the A1RM is a street pad, capable of decent track work. The performance is very good, and we personally run it in our rally car, but most of you guys will be running relatively high horsepower, and on decent rubber. At the end of the day most lightly modified Skylines are virtually a race car with a cage. There are pads above A1RM, and a few of you may need to look at something better if you're on the edge of the A1RM. The A1RM is a Ferodo DS2500 equivalent (and MILES better than EBC Red ), but anyone who's serious about track days, will run the DS3000 on the track, and run something else on the street. The A1RM is the best cross over pad there is. Anything less won't do track work as well, and anything better won't be 100% streetable.

If you're serious about track work to the point where you're going through a set of A1RM in a track day, then you need to be prepared to change pads for track use only. The next pads up are QFM Comp9 Front / Comp2 Rear combo, and each axle set is $179.

Moodles, with regards to your pads, and the pictures you've posted up, the big thing for me is how unevenly the pads have worn, have a look at possibly getting the calipers rebuilt, and inspecting the pistons while they're out, there's something not 100% about how those pads have worn. Working off the backing plates being 5mm thick, the thickest remaining pad is about 3mm, with the lest less than 1mm. For there to be ANY material left on them is very good. Generally with track work pads will start to fall apart with about 3-4mm left... even the best brands. We've got a set of Pagid STi Brembo pads here that fared alot worse than those...

I would've expected them to last longer than 4 x 20 minutes, but to put it in perspective, V8 Race Experience change pads (Ferodo) halfway through their day, and the average punter in those cars won't be driving as hard as you. The uneven wear isn't helping the issue, and there may be a bigger issue with the calipers, like not retracting properly, and causing higher heat and wear. If you get the calipers rebuilt, and still have the same issue, then take it as compliment cause it means you're driving bloody hard, and need to step up to something higher like the Comp range of pads....