Why Do Rotaries Suck?

[bozodos]

look out, its the same troll back again trying to troll the trolls.

Troll elsewhere kta

[Beelzebub89]

One for the admins,

why is it that the same people can post absolute crap in this thread yet nothing gets done ?

i thought there was a section made for these types of rubbish comments that seem to be common amongst the same users.

Agree. Move thread to Wasteland?

[Birds]

How about we just lock this thread, that way we can preserve the integrity it had earlier on.

[[200]]

look out, its the same troll back again trying to troll the trolls.

Troll elsewhere kta

lol you're just pissy that SK keeps rolling you Marc, awesome thread would read again! (now for someone to link this thread to a rotor forum ha ha ha)

lol interesting reading apart from the tl;dr posts about physics etc. Most of the rotor forum invaders have done nothing to help their cause, they are nearly as bad as the muzza's from Calais Turbo lol.

IMO rotaries suck pure and simply because they are impractical as a street car or a daily in any form. That and the insane fuel consumption.

just FYI fuel consumption above 15L/100km is shithouse.

Funny how everyone I know with rotary powered cars never seems to have them on the road for more than a month or two at a time, and are getting fuel consumption skywards of 15L/100km. (AFAIK the R32 GT-R is quoted at around 16L/100, and GTS-T at 10L) Thats why I mentioned reliability, and fuel consumption, from my own experiences. The OP asked why they suck (and if they were any good they would be in mainstream use), and apart form epic thread diversions and invasions from RX-7 owners, is being told opinions why.

Rb30s are stronger than local motors - 500 000km on an unopened RB30S FTW

I can't wait to meet another rotary owner and inform them all about the 'mazda lies' which have been uncovered in this thread

I think the main problem is your continuing acceptance of the Mazda lies Birds

good point about the turbo sizes, all that air has to fit in somewhere! (even with the rotary's lower inherent compression ratio).

After reading this thread, I can't look at an RX-7 the same way because I'm constantly thinking theres a 3.9 litre motor in there, and my boner goes down just that little bit more

I think we're all forgetting that this is a thread about why rotaries suck, rather than an existential discussion about what "is" a 2 stroke a 4 stroke or a rotary engine etc etc. Nor is it an RX-7 appreciation thread. Therefore anyone who wasn't bashing Mazda's or rotaries in general is wrong, and should gtfo

so the other main reason why rotaries suck is their relative inefficiency compared to modern piston engines?

well now we all agree that the RX-7 sucks due to the Mazda lies since it is a 3.9l rotary cycle motor with characteristics of both 2 and 4 stroke piston engines!

This thread is starting to die off a bit, so before someone takes it and collates it into their university thesis, is the wrong side willing to concede to the Mazda lies?

I cannot be stuffed anymore, but I think this one sums your contribution to this thread perfectly,

What you call fact I say subjective opinion...the length of this thread is evidence of that. But really, shut up man. The debate finished a long time ago...we all got sick of it, even the most argumentative of us. You had your chance for input back then, of which I didn't see much besides you saying who is right and who is wrong. Why try to reignite the fire when the thread is long enough as is? It sure sounds like trolling to me.

[bozodos]

um I think you have the wrong quote there, my name isn't marc, and I haven't tried to argue anything with SK? I appreciate the trouble you went to to quote nearly every post I've made in this thread, you must get bored!

If you don't like it, hit report and continue on your way.

most of the posts in this thread are opinion based, does that make them all trolls?

A mate got a Series 5 FC a few months ago, and it's completely stock, it actually has decent fuel consumption and hasn't had any problems yet, though it's been looked after by its Aussie owners well.

[[200]]

so you don't even remember what you've posted in this thread?

people shouldn't have to hit the report button, how come you just couldn't stfu and keep your school yard comments to yourself?

most of these what you say 'opinion based' comments actually come from people that have some kind of first hand experience with the rotary engine and not what they heard from an uncles mates brother who has a cousins sisters boyfriend that owned one.

i just don't get it one bit. but i am sure you will make up another bull shit comment in an attempt to justify your reasoning.

thanks for the laugh though, you really are dumb

[ido09s]

IMO rotaries suck pure and simply because they are impractical as a street car or a daily in any form. That and the insane fuel consumption.

Funny how everyone I know with rotary powered cars never seems to have them on the road for more than a month or two at a time, and are getting fuel consumption skywards of 15L/100km. (AFAIK the R32 GT-R is quoted at around 16L/100, and GTS-T at 10L) Thats why I mentioned reliability, and fuel consumption, from my own experiences. The OP asked why they suck (and if they were any good they would be in mainstream use), and apart form epic thread diversions and invasions from RX-7 owners, is being told opinions why.

Care to elaborate on why they dont make a perfectly good daily driver? as i beg to differ

Being the owner of 4 rotaries so far i can tell you that my old R100, a 13BT that ran mid 12 all day long, was driven a good 30klms in peak hour traffic on a daily basis and was never an issue. I drove it to work for a good 18 months and it was trouble free.

No personal attack on your mates but clearly they need to find a decent mechanic as the ones they are using sound pretty useless. Reliablity is not an issue if they are put together properly and BLOJOE is a perfect example of this. A car that if set up properly ie slicks, rollcage etc would run high 8's and it cops it every time the car gets started up. Joe has raped this car and it always comes back for more. I have also seen an FD with its original engine and 250,000klms....

If people wanna pick on engine parts ie seals, lets not go near the RB26 oil pump lol

[[200]]

I was quoting the posts that he made.

The forum doesn't allow as many quotes as I had in the post so I had to delete the [ quote ] part out of it.

[bozodos]

i think you should remember that this is a public discussion forum, not the Forced Induction section that is more aimed at factual and objective posts. I do like how you've posted about 1 comment that was actually OT and have continually tried to attack me.

As they say, "haters gonna hate"

[Birds]

He got docs on you boz!

[xALmoN]

epic fb stalker.

[bozodos]

thanks for dropping docs you top bloke, feel better now? I think it tells a lot about you that you would go to THAT much trouble.

this is a through and through case of trolls trolling trolls like I said

Edited September 14, 2010 by bozodos

[[200]]

it took all of about 1 minute to find it.

not that hard, for the sake of being banned i'll leave it at that. enjoying failing at life

[boiracer]

so some good stuff on here.....and the usual E-peen comparison rubbish. i feel like im in a PS3 Vs Xbox thread all over again.

Rotors are great at what they do, and if they were bad they wouldn't have kept them alive so long. i know a 13B will be the engine of choice for my silly little VW bug......even in standard untouched form, a hell of alot faster than any beetle motor for the money....and other than a sardine canned WRX engine..the only thing that fits

[KezR33]

That hyper car on this forum, that's what I was originally talking about in very first post on this stupidly long thread.

http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/worlds-greatest-hypercar-hoax-20110829-1jhw3.html

The RSC website states the car will be powered by a 5.2-litre, quad-turbocharged, eight-rotor rotary engine producing 2089kW of power and 3494Nm of torque – or roughly five times the power and torque of a 911 Turbo S.

[Silvia GTR]

Thread delivered the facts, lol.

[djr81]

Rotors are great at what they do.

Amen to that. They are brilliant at turning petrol into noise. The old ones also turn some of the oil dumped through them into noise and stinky fumes aswell. Bonus.

As for the rest of this thread it was stuffed when SK posted a bunch of half arguable "facts". But then people should never let the facts get in the way of a good internet trolling.

[boiracer]

trolling is awesome. such a worth while use of time...

[GT-R32]

My brother's 13BT 3.9L 1080° Wankel Cycle RX7 rev-limits at 5280RPM. It uses around 17L/100km. Problem?

[TerminalWraith]

Problem? Hell I thought its fuel guzzling was a feature!