You Can't Decide Between The C34 Or M35...get A Toycar

[southern_tango]

The other day in a mag I saw this car...The Toycar BLIT (2002/2007),It looks like toyota went bored of the caldina,so they atrt looking to real wagons (eg.Wgnc34 /nm35)so the got somebody with a chemistry toy set and asked him to mix a:

C34: 35% ..........2.5Lt.turbo(straight six),separated high beams

M35: 40% ..........roundish shape ,rear lights

legnum: 10% ...........smaller size

Saab: 5% ...........ugly grill

caldina: 10% ...........crap interior

Blit 100%

2.5 iR-VWagonFRATGasoline24911JZ-GTEGH-JZX110W-AWPVZ2.5 iR-SfourWagon4WDATGasoline24911JZ-GETA-JZX115W-AWPSF2.5 iR-SWagonFRATGasoline24911JZ-FSETA-JZX110W-AWASH

and to be prius friendly they even have a 2.0 lt.(n/a)4WD option.. ...try to accelerate in a 1620 Kg wagon like that...

Yes,you now have another option (BTW rear side looks like somebody added something to a sedan, like the ugly Sangyong 4x4)

So...you want a wagon...you want performace...BUY A STAGEA...

Edited September 16, 2009 by southern_tango

[infiltrator]

WTF's with the rear side windows... ?

gee..Toyota make crap cars... haha

[_Ryan_]

Man thats shit, they should of just bought my car...

[rb26stagea]

Don't knock 'em too soon, fellas: they come with a 1jzGTE: far superior to both the RB25 and VQ25 in potential, and I believe the chassis is very closely related to the JZX110 Chaser: they will handle extremely well too...

[stagman]

yeah you know, i think that could even look good. some nice big wheels, low profile tyre... a bit of chrome and in black... Different rear bar for sure!

it has potential.

[lilcrash]

It doesn't take much for Toyota to build a superior car when there engines don't have half of the problems that Nissan does. Like yer ok I do drive a Nissan but I've still got a 1974 rt104 in my shed that's twice as reliable as my stag

[floody]

Toyota do some good wagons. The late model Crown wagons in particular is awesome; kind of reminiscent of an S1 stag in some ways, many have the 1JZ-GTE.

Like!

[zei20l]

if caldinas werent so expensive, i probably would have bought one!!

[_Ryan_]

My stag and dattos and R31s were way more reliable than the mrs's supra... that said, stag is the most reliable car I have ever had!

[66yostagea]

Hmmmm. Yes. All my Nissans have been very reliable. My first RMR30 bought new did 600ks no troubles. I still have two R30s, 400 & 300 ks all good if a little rough round the edges.

I must confess that I like the Crown WNG. Very C34 but it does not have the stupid half opening rear windows.

[SHIZNT]

The later Crown Wagon's also came in a 2JZ-GE... Bolt on a large GT35/40r or GT42r and go nuts

I wonder if they can be complianced in Australia as ive never seen one on the road...?

[iamhe77]

Don't knock 'em too soon, fellas: they come with a 1jzGTE: far superior to both the RB25 and VQ25 in potential, and I believe the chassis is very closely related to the JZX110 Chaser: they will handle extremely well too...

yes, but you are talking mechanical, and we all know that Toyota over engineer... but with the exception of the Caldina, everything that Toyota have pushed off the production line post 2001, as far as I can recall, have looked like crap.

It is like the people in charge of the aesthetics of their cars have no emotion what-so-ever.

if caldinas werent so expensive, i probably would have bought one!!

They needed to be a bit bigger too... but I do love the newer models (not so much the interior though).

Edited September 17, 2009 by iamhe77

[zei20l]

yeah interior is a bit boring, but the new shape is VERY aggressive!

was gonna get one for anna, but again, too expensive.........

[pixel8r]

I have always said that toyota make reliable, yet boring cars. The type of people who toyotas are best suited to are the type of people who dont know what car they're driving - they just want something cheap to run, reliable, and good quality. Toyota deliver on this 100%. And they do make a few good sporty-looking cars as well - I do like the supra for example. But for the most part I find their cars technically superior in almost every way, but overall just boring.

Its about appealing to the mass market - and there's definitely a reason why toyota are the #1 most profitable (is that the right term?) car manufacturer in the world. Until recently they are the only one who hadn't reported a loss.

And yes I'll admit the same can be said for most aussie-delivered Nissans as well (the garden-variety maxima and tiida come to mind).

But when you have a lineup including silvias, 180s', 300zx, skylines, stageas, 350z, 370z, and now the GT-R, its clear they are passionate about sports cars....and pretty much all of these cars have a strong fan base surrounding them.

Having said all of that, I know a few people who are passionate about toyotas so obviously i'm just biased.

[Unicorn Rider]

yes, but you are talking mechanical, and we all know that Toyota over engineer... but with the exception of the Caldina, everything that Toyota have pushed off the production line post 2001, as far as I can recall, have looked like crap.

It is like the people in charge of the aesthetics of their cars have no emotion what-so-ever.

They needed to be a bit bigger too... but I do love the newer models (not so much the interior though).

Yep, they're just too damn ugly! I mean, the crown wagon looks like a funeral car, for crying out loud!

Its hideous!

[iamhe77]

I have always said that toyota make reliable, yet boring cars. The type of people who toyotas are best suited to are the type of people who dont know what car they're driving - they just want something cheap to run, reliable, and good quality. Toyota deliver on this 100%. And they do make a few good sporty-looking cars as well - I do like the supra for example. But for the most part I find their cars technically superior in almost every way, but overall just boring.

Its about appealing to the mass market - and there's definitely a reason why toyota are the #1 most profitable (is that the right term?) car manufacturer in the world. Until recently they are the only one who hadn't reported a loss.

And yes I'll admit the same can be said for most aussie-delivered Nissans as well (the garden-variety maxima and tiida come to mind).

But when you have a lineup including silvias, 180s', 300zx, skylines, stageas, 350z, 370z, and now the GT-R, its clear they are passionate about sports cars....and pretty much all of these cars have a strong fan base surrounding them.

Having said all of that, I know a few people who are passionate about toyotas so obviously i'm just biased.

Agreed... mostly.

Give me a Celica GT4 over a 180 or Silvia, and a Supra over a skyline any day!

Those cars certainly do not lack "passion"... but they ended some time ago, unfortunately.

(as it stands, had I not bough a car based on my wants and the needs of a family - thus the M35 - I would have been quite happy in a Supra RZ or a Celica GT4)

Yep, they're just too damn ugly! I mean, the crown wagon looks like a funeral car, for crying out loud!

Its hideous!

So are you the pot or the kettle??

Edited September 17, 2009 by iamhe77

[Stinky Rooster]

The later Crown Wagon's also came in a 2JZ-GE... Bolt on a large GT35/40r or GT42r and go nuts

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= hairy palms

just sayin...

[southern_tango]

somebody else saw the idea of comparing this 2 cars before

hope somebody around has it ...

Edited September 22, 2009 by southern_tango

[dirtyRS4]

I found these pics today, crown S170 athlete V wagon.

Nice..1JZ, manual and rear wheel drive! This is a better comparism to the stag.

If the stagea is the GTR wagon, then this is what you would call a supra wagon?

Edited September 22, 2009 by dirtyRS4

[infiltrator]

I have this issue, ill see if i can scan in the next day or so..

The article made up my mind on getting a stagea in the first place. altho the article is for S1

also has a GTR Transfer case pulled apart , if you would like ill scan that as well.

somebody else saw the idea of comparing this 2 cars before

hope somebody around has it ...