Nfs - Shift

[Inferno]

This game just sounds like race driver GRID with a fresh coat of paint....

I think I'll stick with GRID tho,

also spending $6,000 on a gaming rig is a waste of money, the core essentials where the most money should be spent is CPU, Mainboard, RAM, Graphics Card, PSU and to a lesser degree Hard Drives and that would run you up at most around the $2000 mark if you were to grab the top shelf stuff (except for the CPU, who wants to pay $1500 for an i7 extreme :\ ) paying for watercooling and all that crap is total wank imo.

[JT3]

imo NFS used to be fun, but i was just a kid, these days you need to play games like LFS, Forza and Gran Turismo.

[FloydWestwood]

yeah im with you on that one Michael.

[flyingfridge]

Can I ask why didn't you like the game??

I've got the game and I like it...It's infinitely better than ProStreet and Undercover. I've always stated that this game is going head to head with Grid.

I'm waiting for Forza 3 as well but comparing Shift against Forza 3, Shift is an Arcade game with some sim aspects and improvements in driving (yes many people have been complaining about the handling but once you adjust the handling then it's very good) while Forza 3 is a full on Sim driving game

So it's two different games essentially

Hmm, not really. The developer behind NFS shift has most of the people responsible for the excellent FIA GTR games involved. It was marketed as a sim type game and while I understand that it's not meant to be as realistic as GTR, it's meant to go a lot of the way.

The shift control scheme and physics are wooden at best, there's very little feel to the cars and while I agree the aural effects are nothing short of awesome the rest of the game sucks a big one. The low level cars are drivable and fun enough, but as you move up the levels to the race cars and the fun stuff like the Zonda R and SpecV, the controls are too sensitive, even with adjustment in the menu, then the cars bounce unrealistically causing more unplayability and crashing.

Nope definitely not my bag. I'm extremely satisfied with my swap for Dirt2 and I'm looking forward to Forza and even more so GT5 later in the year.

[BigDirtyJase]

Fair enough...It's better that what most people who don't like the game just comparing to Forza 3 only (even though the game hasn't even been released yet)

Yeah I guess Shift has split personality...wants to be sim but also wants to be arcade... yeah I have agree the driving model is bit crap. Adjustments to dead zone stuff helps but it could have been better. The worst thing is the drifting part of the game...when you have a (in my case) a full spec S15 for drifting and it just spins out off the line is just silly. I can remember one of the videos Vaugh Gittin Jr. saying that he helped with the drift mechnics to make it realistic...I think he was just talking crap because it's just wacked - I even have to dumb down to easy and have all the assists on to get a good drift

Dirt 2 is a good game too...I'm just juggling between the two

[inark]

This game just sounds like race driver GRID with a fresh coat of paint....

I think I'll stick with GRID tho,

also spending $6,000 on a gaming rig is a waste of money, the core essentials where the most money should be spent is CPU, Mainboard, RAM, Graphics Card, PSU and to a lesser degree Hard Drives and that would run you up at most around the $2000 mark if you were to grab the top shelf stuff (except for the CPU, who wants to pay $1500 for an i7 extreme :\ ) paying for watercooling and all that crap is total wank imo.

2k... ur dreaming, you can setup a "good" gaming machine for a teenager maybe and keep updating it every few months, which is fine if thats what your happy with. That should perform pretty much to the same level of a PS3 or 360.

But for people who have money and want to pay for it, then 2k will barely cover the CPU and case. The one i built for my mate has these core components... not including the water cooling which is only a wank if you dont overclock.

Intel Core i7 975

EVGA X58 SLI Classified Hydro Copper

6GB Corsair Dominator GT PC3 2000 C8 DDR3

EVGA GeForce GTX-295 CO-OP FTW Edition

All that alone came to almost 4k

And this still isnt going to extremes, he does want to double the GFX cards and double the RAM...

I'll stick to my $300-$500 consoles.

[bozodos]

at least with consoles the games are optimised to the system rather than having to do it the other way around.

On the other hand, computers aren't as bad as they used to be, my (almost) 3 year old desktop with 2gb RAM and the only upgrade being an 8600GT video card runs most newish games fine, albeit without all the bells and whistles turned on

[mad082]

how is the handling of shift? is it more like the older NFS games (such as underground) or is it more like prostreet? i thought pro street was terrible in most aspects (drag and drift were ok, but track racing was terrible). the older games were unrealistic but at least they were managable. and if it makes any difference, i'm wanting to know for the sony.

as for the pc vs console debate, i'm no computer nerd and don't really give a flying firetruck if the pc has a slightly better graphics display. it also costs a buttload more, can't just simply unplug a couple of cables, stick it in a bag and take it to a mates place and plug it into their tv and play multiplayer with other non computer nerds, LOL. also i don't play that often so outlaying heaps of coin on a pc would just be a waste for me. as long as the game plays well i don't care about the graphics. hell i still love playing mario world on my SNES. also with a console i can lie back in the lounge without having to balance a keyboard and a mouse (even though that isn't as relevant for racing games).

[BigDirtyJase]

As I said on here before...Shift has split personality...wants to be sim but also wants to be arcade. handling is alright but has the tendency to oversteer. Most of is cured by adjusting the deadzones on the controller....don't get me started on drifting in this..

As for the neverending PC vs Console debate. Yes PC will cost a crapload more but you don't have to rob a bank to build a decent PC. Yes you can spend 6k for a kickass "gaming" PC but what does it give you in return? (other than running Crysis and Crysis Warhead at 50FPS). I built my PC last year and paid just under 2k and runs great.

The last PC I built for a friend (which was 2 months ago) was this:

Intel Core i7 920 (2.66GHz/4.80 GT/s Bus Speed/45nm/8MB L3)

ASUS P6T SE motherboard

6GB Corsair Triple 1333C9 DDR3 RAM

2x Seagate 500GB SATA2 HDDs

Sapphire 1GB HD4890

Pioneer DVR218L DVD Burner

Coolermaster RC690 Case

Coolermaster Extreme 650W PSU

Zalman CNPS9900A CPU Cooler

All up $1618. Granted my friend still had a decent LCD monitor, speakers, keyboard and mouse setup (if he didn't then it would cost him just on 2k). The machine runs great and all the new games look sweet (although this is an all-rounder machine)

Nobody can win a PC vs Console debate....Consoles have their pros and cons and PC have pros and cons

[Nic_A31]

can't just simply unplug a couple of cables, stick it in a bag and take it to a mates place and plug it into their tv and play multiplayer with other non computer nerds, LOL.

Actually....you can do that.

Get a small tower case, you can plug yout TV into your card, and you can get wireless controllers for PCs...but its still a couple of KGs heavier than any other console,

Handling is like ProStreet...with enough practice you'll get the hang of it, but then as soon as you go back to another racing game, you'll suck at it, being used to Shift. I experience massive understeer, others the opposite. I think with a properly calibrated wheel, and pedals, it might be a fun game. I'll admit, i think PS3 would be easier for steering, since you can control how much steer you give, ie, wuater, half, full, where as a keyboard, with the arrows, its either no steer, or full lock, unless you've got a wheel.

Its starting to become fun since I've got the hang of drifting now...almost.

[mad082]

well considering that i normally play GT4 at the moment and am good at that, i'll pass on shift. i could easily go from the early NFS games to GT4 without a worry, but prostreet shit me off.

[BigDirtyJase]

I haven't played GT4 in a long time...I've still got my save game with all my cars (most of them have setups done)...and racing my friend (his R32 GTS-T verses my Stagea RS4 S. and R33 GTR vs Stagea 260RS) on trial mountain

[typevu]

I just attempted NFS Shift on PC with keyboard... it failed. Anyone using a controller of some sort on the PC for Shift e.g. Xbox 360 controller on PC - does it do the no steer or full lock thing like when using keyboard?

[Nic_A31]

meant to type quater up there by the way, took me a while to read my own post just then, haha.

[typevu]

meant to type quater up there by the way, took me a while to read my own post just then, haha.

You mean.......... quarter.

[Nic_A31]

ok, shut up fella's. Last night I was tired, today I was typing fast so I could hide what I was actually doing from the boss, and no excuse for the last typo.

You get what I mean though.

What do PS/Xbox owners have to say? Surely it'd be much easier than binary steering on the PC ?

[lingeringsoul]

i played it on PC, had to play a bit before I got used to the sensitivity issues. BUt I do have to say, it's very enjoyable.....except for the drift section which is just impossibly on keyboard. The only complaint I have is that the cars seem more unstable than that of Gran Tourismo.........seems the slightly turn while on full throttle will unsettle the cars. In the end I had to turn on the stability and traction control, other wise it would've been just impossible.

[scotty014]

i think the only way to play this game properly is with a controller or steering wheel and pedals, becuase with alot of it especially drifting you have to be gentle with the throttle. i got used to drifting now and like it, and the gtr spec v is crazy to drive, i can take corners so fast in it. while some cars like the e46 m3 i have a bit of trouble driving because for some reason its very twitchy ill have to do some tuning.

[DivHunter]

2k... ur dreaming, you can setup a "good" gaming machine for a teenager maybe and keep updating it every few months, which is fine if thats what your happy with. That should perform pretty much to the same level of a PS3 or 360.

But for people who have money and want to pay for it, then 2k will barely cover the CPU and case. The one i built for my mate has these core components... not including the water cooling which is only a wank if you dont overclock.

Intel Core i7 975

EVGA X58 SLI Classified Hydro Copper

6GB Corsair Dominator GT PC3 2000 C8 DDR3

EVGA GeForce GTX-295 CO-OP FTW Edition

All that alone came to almost 4k

And this still isnt going to extremes, he does want to double the GFX cards and double the RAM...

I'll stick to my $300-$500 consoles.

Way to rip your friend off.

i7 920 D0 will go over 4GHz the 975 is a waste.

Classified + EK Full cover is cheaper than the Hydro that isn't full cover.

Despite owning that RAM myself I'll freely admit it is a complete wank and not worth the price.

Any single PCB GTX 295 will clock as fast if not faster than the CO-OP FTW. Older dual PCB are slightly faster again in most cases and then two GTX 275s are faster again.

If you are going to compare brand new hardware you'd at least have to say $600-$1200 consoles that they sold for when they actually had new hardware.

[Marco-R34GTT]

First Need for Speed: SHIFT patch addresses two shocking omissions

By James Cottee - Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:13am

A week after launch, EA has released the first patch for the PC version of its new racing game, Need for Speed SHIFT.

The 13 meg update addresses two shocking omissions: the lack of local area network multi-player, and the lack of full menu navigation support for a commonly-used PC peripheral known as a 'mouse.'

In the hurly-burly business of porting console games to the desktop, it's easy to forget that PC gamers like to connect their computers together for 'LAN' play, and at times use control inputs other than joypads.

Well done, EA.

Bravo.

http://games.on.net/article/6951/First_Nee...cking_omissions

WTF EA.... You pack of effing TW4TS!