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do they use the same tub as any other car ? as having the frist in the uk know body no's any thing about them

The stock turbo is a Garret M24N, if you do a search on this forum you will find pics and info that may answer some of your questions.

As suggested, high flowing the stock turbo is your best bet, saves modifications as it will bolt straight back on.

Brake fluid - stock = dot 3 but dot 4 wouldn't hurt

Differential oils - stick to a grade 4 synthetic such as Mobil 1 or preferably a grade 5 such as Redline, Motul 300v of Gulf Western Sougi S6000 (odds of you coming by the Sougi are very low indeed)

AT fluid - Nissan Matic J or Matic S ONLY. If you want to go aftermarket, you can use Nulon 100% synthetic transmission fluid DO NOT use a Dextron III fluid, it will destroy your clutch packs faster than you can change the oil!

Power Steering Fluid / ATTESSA - stock = Nissan Matic D. You can go with the Nulon again here, but I think that Matic D is basically a Dextron III oil.

Transfer Case fluid - same as transmission

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Hi All,

i did the transmission fluid change and flush on saturday using the Nulon 100% fluid mentioned above. i also installed an aftermarket Trans cooler that i found on ebay through one of the topics on here.

everything went fine until i took it for a drive yesterday (sunday). i found that it sometimes (not all the time) has trouble taking off for a split second and it builds up the power and almost slingshots the car. i noticed this happened alot in Reverse and only sometimes in Drive, but yet again 90% of the time from a standing start. the only time i noticed this on the roll was if i was in manual mode and in 3rd (only in 3rd) gear when coming to a roundabout or a giveway intersection, where a full stop was not required, and i started to accelerate there would be a half second lag before it had the slingshot effect described earlier.

i will check the hose lines to and from the cooler when i get home just to make sure there are no kinks and everything is ok and i might connect the standard cooler hose and see if that helps. if that doesnt help it has to be the Nulon Fluid which means that i'll have to go genuine Matic J. im hoping that its not the transmission.

if anyone has been down this road? can you please let me know what it is and the best way to sort it out.

Thanks in advance.

Stefan

everything went fine until i took it for a drive yesterday (sunday). i found that it sometimes (not all the time) has trouble taking off for a split second and it builds up the power and almost slingshots the car. i noticed this happened alot in Reverse and only sometimes in Drive

To what extent is the "slingshot" and how much accelerator are you giving it?

i will check the hose lines to and from the cooler when i get home just to make sure there are no kinks and everything is ok and i might connect the standard cooler hose and see if that helps. if that doesnt help it has to be the Nulon Fluid which means that i'll have to go genuine Matic J. im hoping that its not the transmission.

if anyone has been down this road? can you please let me know what it is and the best way to sort it out.

I have a PWR cooler hooked up and use the Nulon fluid (have done for over a year now).

Do you have the radiator cooler hooked up as well?

I personally have not had an issue with the Nulon oil. My car behaves the same as it did after I had the transmission flushed by Nissan with the Matic J and additive satchel put in.

with the slingshot thing, i'd say that its a sudden push of the pedal down to about halfway maybe a little more, the revs rise up to about 1500rpm and its a sudden grab.

yes the radiator cooler is still plugged in. i have plugged the aftermarket cooler on the return line from the radiator.

i'm about to go and check the lines to the aftermarket cooler and it would be safe to say that the Nulon Fluid is fine and the issues can be

1. aftermarket cooler is restrictive.

2. aftermarket cooler hoses arent flowing like they should.

3. my transmission

i hope its not number 3. LoL

if the lines look ok i'll plug the standard hose back in, which will complete disconnect the aftermarket cooler and see if that makes a difference.

i appreciate your help with this mate and hopefully i can work this out soon and dont damage the transmission.

Thanks again.

Bypass the new cooler, you maybe over cooling the trans

Can't see it. I was running two aftermarket coolers without the radiator "cooler" last winter and had no real issues.

It did take about 20mins to get the trans out of its cold start mode though lol... but certainly nothing like what Stefan is describing.

How did you check the fluid level? Sounds like its low.

Just on that Stefan, if you have 3/8" (9.5mm) hoses from the radiator to the cooler you may be leaking trans oil as 3/8" is larger than the 8mm (5/16") hose barbs on the radiator.

Come to think of it, when I first put in the two coolers (a PWR 6cyl and a Mishimoto) I had a bit of flaring from the transmission.

Turns out that the 3/8" silicone hose I used didn't seal around the transmission inlet/outlet hose barbs (no matter how tight I clamped it) and I lost about a litre of fluid so definitely check the fluid level (when warm ideally).

I got around this by sliding some thin-walled clear hose over the barb and pushing the cooler hose over it - both on the outlet of the radiator cooler and the inlet of the transmission.

Works like a charm :)

Which transmission cooler do you have?

As an aside, I checked the transmission oil level/colour last night after my normal hour long drive home (maybe you got me a bit paranoid. Still full and still the same bright red colour which tells me that after 50,000kms or so the Nulon is not yet breaking down.

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Hi All,

i did the transmission fluid change and flush on saturday using the Nulon 100% fluid mentioned above. i also installed an aftermarket Trans cooler that i found on ebay through one of the topics on here.

everything went fine until i took it for a drive yesterday (sunday). i found that it sometimes (not all the time) has trouble taking off for a split second and it builds up the power and almost slingshots the car. i noticed this happened alot in Reverse and only sometimes in Drive, but yet again 90% of the time from a standing start. the only time i noticed this on the roll was if i was in manual mode and in 3rd (only in 3rd) gear when coming to a roundabout or a giveway intersection, where a full stop was not required, and i started to accelerate there would be a half second lag before it had the slingshot effect described earlier.

i will check the hose lines to and from the cooler when i get home just to make sure there are no kinks and everything is ok and i might connect the standard cooler hose and see if that helps. if that doesnt help it has to be the Nulon Fluid which means that i'll have to go genuine Matic J. im hoping that its not the transmission.

if anyone has been down this road? can you please let me know what it is and the best way to sort it out.

Thanks in advance.

Stefan

Again this might sound very stupid.. but thats exactly what my car does in snow mode.

not taking off fast and then delivering power ? only not delivering power in a rolling start motion when entering a roundabout or heavy steering ? happening in reverse consistently ?

thats exactly what snow mode is meant to do.. not deliver power until your moving so you dont slide out in snow .. checked your switch next to the gear lever ? easily pressed and exact symptoms.

Hi all,

its definately not in Snow Mode i would've noticed the lights on the dash. and besides its not as delayed as snow mode is. snow mode delivers power slowly and it gradually builds up. what was happening to me was a split second thing where the trasnmission would stall up and then grab suddenly.

the cooler i'm using is an ebay item i found through one of the topics.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Large-Automatic-Tra...rts_Accessories

and now to add more to the problem after checking the hoses for kinks and the connections, (everything was right and no leaks from around the clamps) i noticed that the transmission pan had fluid all around it. i put the car on a stand and got underneath and found that the gasket wasnt sealing properly (i didnt replace the gasket or undo the bolts) and all the bolts needed tightening.

and scotty you were right, it was low on fluid as it was leaking out. after i tightened all the pan bolts i started the car up last night and left it to warm up so i can check the level and it was low. i topped it up and now it seems to be ok. i tried to drive it the same way i was driving when the problems were showing up but this morning was ok.

now i just have to wait and see if the gasket is completely gone or will it keep for a few more thousand. or maybe i'll find a hoist and do it all again.

thanks alot guys. i appreciate the help.

Stefan

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