How Much Rwkw For What 1/4 Mile Time.

[R 2 THE J]

And yes 2rismo has done 11.5 with those mods mentioned and Nos.

It was in a past HPI.

[DCIEVE]

Ah speaking of one of those such experts here he is.

Wanna refresh us on why you can't run a mid 11 with 260rwkw?

Even though it has been done?

I find it hard to keep a straight face responding to your posts any more. Are you taking the piss?

At what point did I say anything about 260rwkw cars?

[R31Nismoid]

Are you?

You never had to say anything about 260rwkw cars, lets cast back the clock what, 2 weeks?

You said a mid 11 could only just be attained - realistically with 300rwkw, in a 32-t

Your reaching. 300rwkw in a manual skyline on drag radials is realistically mid to high 11's.

300rwkw is more than 260rwkw last time i checked.

So if 260rwkw ran a mid 11 (in a heavier car) then realistically... Wouldn't that mean you're in no place to comment about who is a fool?

[DCIEVE]

LOL

Adrian did extremely well with his car, and I would say is an exception to the norm. Never the less, he was not making 300rwkw, was not running 10's and (according to his webpage) despite making more power now is yet to do so. Not having been done before doesn't make it impossible - but it does mean for a regular street driven skyline having the odd run at the track its very f*cking unlikely!

I haven't resorted to name calling yet But with comments like this it would be warranted.

I thought mid 11's wasn't possible with even 300rwkw according to the experts around here

Edited October 11, 2009 by DCIEVE

[rev210]

LOL

Adrian did extremely well with his car, and I would say is an exception to the norm. Never the less, he was not making 300rwkw, was not running 10's and (according to his webpage) despite making more power now is yet to do so. Not having been done before doesn't make it impossible - but it does mean for a regular street driven skyline having the odd run at the track its very f*cking unlikely!

Adrian is only an exception to the norm due to his birth defects and tendancy to be a natural fithly ricer and a cheater.

The bolting on of a nitrous kit to the average stock turbo/motor gtst and running 11's with supporting bits is not an exceptional feat at all. The only exception is that most of the skyline community don't understand how great nitrous is and what it can get you if your game is the odd 1/4 mile and mostly street driving every other day. A kit can be setup to be bolted on and off in 15min for a trip to the track. So you can have a stocker during the day and everything you like about that and then do the right thing legally and leave the foot down activity to the drag strip.

When I sold my old bunky nitrous kit to Adrian I predicted he would run mid 11's once sorted at about the 100 shot mark or snick over.

If anyone is keen to have a go they can basically expect the same results with the same approach.

What I would like to see is a dedicated Nitrous skyline with a big ass 300+ hp direct port setup.

[StealthX]

http://www.coastdriveline.com/htmlfolder/dragcalculator.html

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[Swiper the Fox]

Adrian is only an exception to the norm due to his birth defects and tendancy to be a natural fithly ricer and a cheater.

The bolting on of a nitrous kit to the average stock turbo/motor gtst and running 11's with supporting bits is not an exceptional feat at all. The only exception is that most of the skyline community don't understand how great nitrous is and what it can get you if your game is the odd 1/4 mile and mostly street driving every other day. A kit can be setup to be bolted on and off in 15min for a trip to the track. So you can have a stocker during the day and everything you like about that and then do the right thing legally and leave the foot down activity to the drag strip.

When I sold my old bunky nitrous kit to Adrian I predicted he would run mid 11's once sorted at about the 100 shot mark or snick over.

If anyone is keen to have a go they can basically expect the same results with the same approach.

What I would like to see is a dedicated Nitrous skyline with a big ass 300+ hp direct port setup.

I have a $2100 genuine NOS nitrous system with all the bells and whistles available for $1100 if anyone needs to go fast. Its still new...someone buy it before i loose my mind and actually try using it.

[krzysiu]

http://www.coastdriveline.com/htmlfolder/dragcalculator.html

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Lol according to that i should run a 10.9 LOL cant see that happening

[StealthX]

yeh lol its pretty optimistic haha

says im headed for mid 12s with 270whp.

lol id be STOKED for anything nearing a 13!

[NickR33]

yeah even with the best launch in the world I don't reckon I could get a 10.3!

how much does the X Trail weigh?

[StealthX]

official rego papers say 1395kg

[R31Nismoid]

you believe rego papers?

Mine was nothing near what the sticker had, fked if i know where those numbers come from to be honest because they certainly are not putting the cars onto the scales!

[StealthX]

well then redbook, nissan themselves, car folio etc say 1450kg. either way its close enough to 1.4 tons...

[SimonR32]

Adrian is only an exception to the norm due to his birth defects and tendancy to be a natural fithly ricer and a cheater.

The bolting on of a nitrous kit to the average stock turbo/motor gtst and running 11's with supporting bits is not an exceptional feat at all. The only exception is that most of the skyline community don't understand how great nitrous is and what it can get you if your game is the odd 1/4 mile and mostly street driving every other day. A kit can be setup to be bolted on and off in 15min for a trip to the track. So you can have a stocker during the day and everything you like about that and then do the right thing legally and leave the foot down activity to the drag strip.

When I sold my old bunky nitrous kit to Adrian I predicted he would run mid 11's once sorted at about the 100 shot mark or snick over.

If anyone is keen to have a go they can basically expect the same results with the same approach.

What I would like to see is a dedicated Nitrous skyline with a big ass 300+ hp direct port setup.

quoted for truth...

R31NISMOID come on, i've seen at least 20 cars with 300rwkw run in the mid to high 11's!!!

you can't compare a stock turbo car with giggle gas to a normal street car, pull the gas off and you would get around a low 13

Edited October 15, 2009 by Cerbera

[stiffler]

Hi guys, i dont post normally but i just had to get in on this one. Firstly ive had a few different cars including big v8s and i hang around some boys that are really into there racing ( yes mostly v8's ) I do however drive a r32 gtr as a daily driver. What i find most upsetting is that people look at HP figures as if its all that counts, which couldnt be further from the truth.

* we all know that if u take out weight from a car the car will go faster

* Suspension setup to me is high on the list but gets higher and higher the more power u make...u might say bullshit...thats fine talk to sum guys running 10's, 9's, 8's even prostock guys all the way to top fuellers and they will all tell u they can make more power no problem its just putting that power down thats the problem.

* I have not heard one guy on this forum or other japanese car forums ever talk about the moroso calculator. Yes it does apply to a forced induction aswell as it would to a naturally aspirated car but if u take into account that a turbo car will usually make more mph ( maybe 3% more )on a 1/4 mile pass that an NA car, but it will usually make a slower 60 ft time ( by .1 - .2 ) compared to an NA car. Take these things into consideration and u will have a very good estimate at what your car is capable of.... Not what it will do, but if all things are right like suspension, driving technique, gearing etc

* Another thing just incase some people dont understand this but it is easily possible for a 250kw car to beat a 300kw car in any race let it be circuit or drag. Reason why is the way we describe power..yes 300kw is the max but whats the average? the 300kw car may have 300 above 6500 and anything below is like your driving a corolla but the 250kw car makes power at 3500 and pulls strong through to 7500. Hence why some dyno competition cars run crap numbers at the strip.

* next point is and im sure we have all seen them at the strip is the guy that makes 400rwkws but for some reason just manages to get the best ET of 11.8 @116mph....Basically if he hasnt got a problem with the car then his car isnt making 400 at all. Dynos are a good tool... no a great tool but they dont do everything and to be honest if i was getting my car dynod and tuned id be taking it to the guy that says he can get the most out of it. Hence ur average guy isnt going to fork out $10000 for a rebuild thats gonna get him 350kw when the shop down the street says for the same price ill get u 400kws.... Ask these guys to sell u a 11 sec package thats guaranteed and then they'll start talking different.

* My ford sedan 351 v8 ran 12.6's @ 109mph with 1.8 60ft all day long according to the moroso calculator i should run 12.2 on the dot with that mph and the calc shows the car makes......350hp..... and u might ask well why isnt it running that well number one it isnt that far off and number 2 the convertor in it was small. Basically im saying that dyno figures can and are overated by some people and if u want to see how much power ( at the very least ) your making look at the mph because if u know the weight of the car and the mph u will have a very close ballpark figure of ur ET.

Just for reference i think it goes like this

12's- 105 to 110mph

11's- 115 to 125mph

10's- 130 to 140mph

these are just approximations but you will get the idea

[DCIEVE]

If you head to a super sedan or super street meet you'l find that anything in the 10.5 to 11.0 bracket is running under 130mph. Your numbers are in the range for street cars though.

[R31Nismoid]

Well ye, if you took off the gas it wouldn't be making 260rwkw anymore now would it?

So of course its going to be lower. Although it would still be mid 12's on semis. I was running 12.8-12.9 with 210-220rwkw and street tyres (1500kg).

Semi's will easily see a mid 12 if not lower as you'll be .2 --> .3 faster over the 60ft, and you're looking at .5-->.6/.7 @ the other end as a result.

[Granthem]

Ill let you know what 255rwkw in a 33 GTST does soon.

Although I imagined 255rwkw would feel faster then what it does. But its done the power on a few different dynos so hopefully its close to accurate

[NickR33]

well then redbook, nissan themselves, car folio etc say 1450kg. either way its close enough to 1.4 tons...

your 4wd weighs over 100kg less than my car............... rude

[StealthX]

your 4wd weighs over 100kg less than my car............... rude