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Adrian i think you will find that a 3082R is going to be fairly laggy, you would have been better off going for a 3076 as they make around the same power but the 76 will be more responsive. A GT3071 is prefect for 250 to 280rwkw. A 3082 has the same compressor size as a GT3582 (unsure of trims though) but with a small GT30 turbine. Garrett don't even have a listing for the 3082 anymore.

P.S. a Gt3082 is the Garrett name for a HKS GT3040

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ROR, overpriced Soccermummobile :)

lol

and nissan australia suck, they canned the TD6 in the series V and VI (unfortunately the last of the original pedigree of patrol :'() and kept the 3.0 grenade motor

cheers guys, the interview felt OK.. always walk out of them thinking of things that i should have said

btw steve, the bp usage meter used to update every hour... now its every 4 hours that could be the cause of your woes

yeah i had a very very light night last night, my old man plays a crappy game called Navyfield as for my only light forum browsing, i really don't DL much maybe a few hours a you tube per week

Adrian i think you will find that a 3082R is going to be fairly laggy, you would have been better off going for a 3076. A 3082 has the same compressor size as a GT3582 (unsure of trims though) but with a small GT30 turbine. Garrett don't even have a listing for the 3082 anymore.

P.S. a Gt3082 is the Garrett name for a HKS GT3040

Swap turbo's Adrian :) problem solved

Adrian i think you will find that a 3082R is going to be fairly laggy, you would have been better off going for a 3076 as they make around the same power but the 76 will be more responsive. A GT3071 is prefect for 250 to 280rwkw. A 3082 has the same compressor size as a GT3582 (unsure of trims though) but with a small GT30 turbine. Garrett don't even have a listing for the 3082 anymore.

P.S. a Gt3082 is the Garrett name for a HKS GT3040

+1 on the above

i used to have the gt3040 with a machined out .54 rb25 housing and that was still laggy, then i went to external gate with a .82 rear and that was even more laggy, you wont start making boost until about 3,800-4,00rpm

i dont think you will get the response u want but u will get a big hit of boost

even with a .63 housing it will still be laggy on a stock motor

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Swap turbo's Adrian :) problem solved

maybe i wasn't clear with my 3076 high flow i made 235rwkw through a transfer case on 16psi im guessing without transfer it would of made 245rwkw on 16psi

have the braided line kit with it and speed flow fittings

maybe i wasn't clear with my 3076 high flow i made 235rwkw through a transfer case on 16psi im guessing without transfer it would of made 245rwkw on 16psi

have the braided line kit with it and speed flow fittings

Is that a stock 25 turbo high flowed with a 76 compressor?

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Actually is has to be both front and rear wheels as they wouldn't keep the ceramic rear wheel. You should be making a lot more power than that, i would have thought that you'd be making nearer 270kw on 16 psi.

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yeah Bill at ATS built it meant to be rated for 270rwkw and 25psi

I'd be interested to know what rear wheel he used then, the proper GT3076 is rated to 500BHP. By the sounds of what he rated it to it sounds more like a 71mm compressor.

76mm compressor map;

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarre...amp;3comp_e.jpg

what were the main differences Matty?

the ZD30 is the 4cyl shared with the navara / pathfinder platforms........kinda the entry level diesel in the range (except it managed to span the whole range from the poverty packs right thru to the luxo model. They had the 4.2 turbodiesel as a higher level entry up until the GU V (mid to late 08). they stopped making the TD42T motor because "nobody was buying them" apparently, but tons of people were cheaping out and buying the 3 litre ones instead. So essentially now (aside from cosmetic changes) the newest models have the 3 litre diesel or the twincam 4.8 petrol 6.

and the reason i say the last of the true pedigree of patrol, ive seen the media releases for the "2010" model. Looks like a pathfinder on steroids, going to can the live axle and go with the trend of IFS, and generally going soft :blush: end of an era if you ask me

the ZD30 is the 4cyl shared with the navara / pathfinder platforms........kinda the entry level diesel in the range (except it managed to span the whole range from the poverty packs right thru to the luxo model. They had the 4.2 turbodiesel as a higher level entry up until the GU V (mid to late 08). they stopped making the TD42T motor because "nobody was buying them" apparently, but tons of people were cheaping out and buying the 3 litre ones instead. So essentially now (aside from cosmetic changes) the newest models have the 3 litre diesel or the twincam 4.8 petrol 6.

and the reason i say the last of the true pedigree of patrol, ive seen the media releases for the "2010" model. Looks like a pathfinder on steroids, going to can the live axle and go with the trend of IFS, and generally going soft :) end of an era if you ask me

oh well Matty, looks like you may have to jump ship.

The new 200's have gone from 4.2L 6cyl Turbodiesel to 4.5L V8 Twin Turbodiesel.....approx 700 Nm of torque with the modified pipes and over 200kw.....not bad for a doozel :blush:

Also maintaining the live rear axle.

oh well Matty, looks like you may have to jump ship.

The new 200's have gone from 4.2L 6cyl Turbodiesel to 4.5L V8 Twin Turbodiesel.....approx 700 Nm of torque with the modified pipes and over 200kw.....not bad for a doozel :)

Also maintaining the live rear axle.

pfft. wont catch me jumping ship, if i did id get a 79 series troopy, may lose a turbo and a bit of power / torque, but its still live axle front

anways, who'd want a toybota :blush: lol

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