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mental note made, dont give james a stick when he's drunk. a few people nearly got smaked in the head by the kendo stick

All good, no eyes were lost, a few welts left :)

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Abe i would also not get organic with a skylines get a

Ceramic Cushioned then you have the strength of the ceramic and drive ability of cushioned

But doesn't an organic allow you to slip it a bit more!?

So no matter what i really choose, someone is going to say "I wouldn't have chosen that clutch kit" or "Why did you get that one" or some other comment. Why cant choosing a clutch be easier :) , too many contradicting comments/opinions.

Attention: Nightcrawler and Aberax.

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:) .....oh, i get it now :blink: ...and it wasn't 4am either, was more like 1-2am...4am was pretty much when we had to get up. Remind me never to share a room/house with you and David again ;)

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incase anyone didn't know cause I certainly didn't, *any* skidding/sliding/burnouts, even taking off from the lights with a bit of wheel spin equals instant 7 day impound + usual rapage. You only have to be suspected of being the one doing them to get booked for it, so if your in an area where someones being an idiot, leave fast.

One of my mates found this out the hard way.

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dang no more innocent till proven guilty, if you drive an import your guilty

Abe why the need to slip the clutch? a good driver doesn't slip or ride the clutch, and with the cushioned ceramic you can still do a slip launch @ the drag strip

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So no matter what i really choose, someone is going to say "I wouldn't have chosen that clutch kit" or "Why did you get that one" or some other comment. Why cant choosing a clutch be easier :) , too many contradicting comments/opinions.

With a clutch you get what you pay for. I went for a cheap Extreme, just recently i had to replace it. I should of spent the money the first time. Also best to get a clutch that is over built for your needs cos then you know it will last, don't just get one that you hope will last.

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dang no more innocent till proven guilty, if you live in Sth Aust your guilty

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Abe why the need to slip the clutch? a good driver doesn't slip or ride the clutch, and with the cushioned ceramic you can still do a slip launch @ the drag strip

I don't know...maybe because i'm not a good driver, or it could be because that's what i am used to since driving the R33

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yeah just a matter of practise there's no 'good' drivers we learn all the time, there's just better and getting better if that makes sense

after having my clutch in for over 3 years now im still getting use to it (then again i dont drive it much), stilll gottr slip/ride it, if u dont dont sumtimes u will stall and its an absolute bastrd bastard to drive in traffic with it, too aggressive with a lot of bite

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Remind me never to share a room/house with you and David again :(

Just you wait till i am staying at your place for the Track Day :D

David might be staying here too BAHAHAHAHAHA
Fine, you'll both get pay back at the same time.

On both occasions you were awake and even sitting up the second time waiting for us. Did you stay at a Christian Brothers orphanage or do some jail time? Because no-one should be that alert when 'sleeping' whilst on holidays.

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Fitted my fmic intercooler piping kit. What a pain in the arse that was. :D Couldn't be arsed trimming the radiator fan, so I've removed it altogether for the moment. Does anyone recommend an electric fan kit?

I'll need to fit one before the track day.

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what fmic kit did you get? you shouldnt be cutting up your fan (found out the hard way)

also, personal opinion, thermo's are shit if your also removing the clutch fan.

the clutch fan works alot better by its self then thermo's working be them selves. thermo's should only be run as a support to a clutch fan if your planning on dailying the car still.

again, this is my opinion. others may disagree.

thermo's ive used have only been davies craig brand and they did what i wanted them to do well (with clutch fan too)

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thermo's should only be run as a support to a clutch fan if your planning on dailying the car still.

again, this is my opinion. others may disagree.

I'll be one that disagrees;

Every east/west engined car ever made runs thermo's and none of them have cooling problems, and this includes 500+hp EVO's and Eclipses.

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I'll be one that disagrees;

Every east/west engined car ever made runs thermo's and none of them have cooling problems, and this includes 500+hp EVO's and Eclipses.

yes, this is true but we are talking about north, south mounted engines and ive seen and when used myself they seemed to be shit compared to the clutch fan.

if a company MADE the car come out with thermos, you would think that they did the proper investigating to make this work while clutch fans work on the north, south engines.

this is just what ive seen and had happen to me.

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yes, this is true but we are talking about north, south mounted engines and ive seen and when used myself they seemed to be shit compared to the clutch fan.

if a company MADE the car come out with thermos, you would think that they did the proper investigating to make this work while clutch fans work on the north, south engines.

this is just what ive seen and had happen to me.

I think you'll find this has more to do with it being cheaper and easier rather than better or worse.

I'm running a single 14" thermo and even on the track i have no problems with temps.

The problem with clutch fan is that they produce parasitic loss all the time even if the temps are fine. The advantage of the thermos is that they only produce a power loss when the cooling is actually needed which you will surprised to know is only around 30% of the time (more if you are in stationary traffic obviously). When the car is moving generally you don't need any more air flow than what you are getting by the car moving through the air.

Look at the North/South cars being produced now 95% or them are running thermos.

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mental note made, dont give james a stick when he's drunk. a few people nearly got smaked in the head by the kendo stick

LOL, sounds like James would make a good candidate for a Mod with his stick wielding talents .......**mental note** :(

So no matter what i really choose, someone is going to say "I wouldn't have chosen that clutch kit" or "Why did you get that one" or some other comment. Why cant choosing a clutch be easier :D , too many contradicting comments/opinions.

Abe, help us to help you buddy.....ie.

How much power are you anticipating?

How much track work will the car see?

Is it your daly and if so, how much rush hour driving will it see?

and most importantly, what is your driving style like, ie. boot into it from most traffic lights (which is how I drove when I was younger) or just the occasional squirt, etc?

All the above factors have a big say on clutch choice but having said that (and as Steve stated) you couldn't go wrong with that NPC setup from the little I know about you and your car.

Hope this is all helping bud, cause I was the same when I was trying to decide on turbos and zorsts before selling mine.

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