My Import Experience - R34 Vspec Gtr - Top Secret Imports!

[GT-R32]

I am glad able to finalie able give something back to forum and kr4gtr for all help in forum.

I am graphic designer profession with 9 yr experiencce here in Kuala Lumpur. I look at both photos and 1 has no doubt been edited.

Going by file size and texture and file history it is clear file which been edited is the one above from GTR32 post. It larger in file size due to more layer added and to not loose original quality of graphic.

If GTR32 did not that edit file it may be seller who do it to try "pull wool over eyes" when asked by kr4gtr why 2 shade in picture?

To show possible to fix tone in picture i will attempt reproduction and post results. Will not take long.

If that's the case then I apologise as I have been taken for a ride also.

However, my original point of posting up extremely negative and abusive reports about individuals for no apparent reason - other than when you checked out their car with a view to buying it didn't go your way - still stands.

[suprasearchin]

I have done pic below to show change colour change.

I also do retouch work for client daily with car and house. Thetre is nothing wrong with edit car pic for sale it is frequent and make look good for buyer.

[l180sxl]

I said i would not say anything more about that particular car, i've wasted enough time on it so im not even going to bother trying to fight anything here.

I created this thread to document my experience, not for ongoing accusations.

I am more than happy for the mods to publicly post IP addresses of the two users which you believe are also me - and match them with my IP address (Im pretty sure invision boards do automatic IP logging?) and this will confirm that its not me.

As for photoshop, f**ked if i would know how to do something like that, i have the software, but i dont have the skills or the knowledge.

I'm going to take my search offline now - i think its time this thread is closed as its unfortunately not working out as i originally hoped.

There will be no further updates from myself, im going outside to kick a ball or something.

Hey Chris,

I am quite sure that there are a number of followers on this Tread.

Please keep them coming as we all are still very interested in your GTR Searching Quest ...

Come on people ... Please let's ALL Move on towards the GTR Searching Quest ...

Chris has been a very excellent Host of this tread sharing all the information and personal experience.

I believe we all should encourage him and get to share his Pride and Joy when he finally Found 'The One'!

May Everyone out there reading this Tread post something if you this Chris should continue with this Tread?

It's a Definate BIG YES! from me myself ...

Best Regards,

Andrew

[matty09]

LOL @ UR THEORY. NO I AM NOT KR4GTR I HAVE NEVER MET THE GUY BUT I ENJOY HIS THREAD AND LIKED HIS CAR. WAS EVEN CONSIDERING BUYING IT AT ONE STAGE. HE ALSO GAVE ME ADVICE ON A GUITAR BUT OUR RELATIONSHIP IS STRICTLY PROFESSIONAL AND THATS AS FAR AS IT GOES COS IM NOT A FAG OR ANYTHING. BUT I NORMALLY DONT EVEN POST ON FORUMS COS OF POOFS LIKE U. SO COME AND MEET ME HERE IN WA SOME TIME AND YOULL DEFINATELY FIND SOME1 DIFFERENT AND SOMEONE THAT DOESNT LIKE YOU.

ID VOTE YES TO CONTINUE THREAD ASWELL BUT I DONT KNOW IF IT COUNTS AS ONE VOTE OR TWO COS I AM APPARENTLY KR4GTR ASWELL? FIGURE THAT ONE OUT LOL

[Weezy]

Hey Chris,

I am quite sure that there are a number of followers on this Tread.

Please keep them coming as we all are still very interested in your GTR Searching Quest ...

Come on people ... Please let's ALL Move on towards the GTR Searching Quest ...

Chris has been a very excellent Host of this tread sharing all the information and personal experience.

I believe we all should encourage him and get to share his Pride and Joy when he finally Found 'The One'!

May Everyone out there reading this Tread post something if you this Chris should continue with this Tread?

It's a Definate BIG YES! from me myself ...

Best Regards,

Andrew

+1

Yes from me aswell

[suprasearchin]

Yes please continu to thread!

[password]

If that's the case then I apologise as I have been taken for a ride also.However, my original point of posting up extremely negative and abusive reports about individuals for no apparent reason - other than when you checked out their car with a view to buying it didn't go your way - still stands.

New to the import scene (looking at ordering one and interested in the procedure) and I dont usually get involved in forums due to what we see has sparked upon us, but taking a wholly neutral viewpoint here and providing my two cents because i do enjoy this thread and hope for it to continue. Examining KR4-GTR's original post about that car, i dont think it was at all extremely negative or abusive as you state. He stated "my experience" and was incredibly light on the details of the actual car as he did not want to destroy the chances of it selling, however wanted to document his personal experience as per this threads significance. If a seller yelled on the phone towards a prospective customer, then i'd actually appreciate this feedback and I'd support him in saying that they truthfully are a c*nt because you just don't do this when selling any car, its dishonorable and superfluous. It is only personal feedback, and it wouldn't stop me from viewing a car if it actually interested me. Again after what I have read it was documented as a personal experience. Despite, the chances of who will actually buy that car probably will never even see this thread. This threads tucked away with tens of thousands of other threads. I think that if anything, you have over reacted and just killed what was once a rare gem of a thread with your wild indictments that everyone had already moved on from days ago. I also disagree the statement above that there is nothing wrong with photoshopping pictures of the car you are selling. They are okay for magazines and such but when it comes to selling a car, it can be misleading and prove substandard when you reach the destination only to find something completely different. I do hope this thread continues, regardless. Thomas.

Edited December 30, 2009 by password

[camero]

Like Thomas, I am new to the forum and looking to import as well. KR4-GTR has done a good job with the thread so far in relation to importing.

I got interested in the photoshopping issue and ran a simple search though google and found a program called "jpegsnoop" (try it!) that can determine if a photo has been altered before.

A quick run of the two pictures through the program and it seems that the photo GTR-32 obtained from the seller is original and KR4-GTR's has been altered.

Just my 2 cents as the results differ from suprasearching's.

However, we should just move on and let KR4-GTR continue with his thread and focus on getting our dream cars from JAPAN!

BTW Happy new year!

[@ndrew]

+1

Yes from me aswell

+1 Me too!

Don't stop now mate!!

[blah_blah]

+1 Me too!

Don't stop now mate!!

+1 Me too!

Been following this thread with interest too!

Cheers

[GT-R32]

Examining KR4-GTR's original post about that car, i dont think it was at all extremely negative or abusive as you state. He stated "my experience" and was incredibly light on the details of the actual car as he did not want to destroy the chances of it selling, however wanted to document his personal experience as per this threads significance. If a seller yelled on the phone towards a prospective customer, then i'd actually appreciate this feedback and I'd support him in saying that they truthfully are a c*nt because you just don't do this when selling any car, its dishonorable and superfluous. It is only personal feedback, and it wouldn't stop me from viewing a car if it actually interested me. Again after what I have read it was documented as a personal experience. Despite, the chances of who will actually buy that car probably will never even see this thread. This threads tucked away with tens of thousands of other threads. I think that if anything, you have over reacted and just killed what was once a rare gem of a thread with your wild indictments that everyone had already moved on from days ago. I also disagree the statement above that there is nothing wrong with photoshopping pictures of the car you are selling. They are okay for magazines and such but when it comes to selling a car, it can be misleading and prove substandard when you reach the destination only to find something completely different. I do hope this thread continues, regardless. Thomas.

1) i dont want to directly impact the chances of anyone selling their car, so i'll have to stay very light on the details with this one. anyway, my personal experience - this guy constantly lied through his teeth about the car just to get me to fly over to melbourne, and then turned into a complete 2 faced immature and arrogant c*nt when i told him politely that im not going to go through with buying it (even though i never actually made any promises to start with!) on a side note, it would be perfect if you're after a car which is 2 completely different shades of blue - front / back.

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/privat...id=125A907BF199

Thomas, you're right. Reading that original post it was an utterly professional way to conduct yourself from the bloke who has been shown to lie and records phone calls with vendors, previously banned under another username.

[GT-R32]

I strongly encourage any one interested to run [right click and save as] the photo on this post:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...t&p=5007397

Through this program:

http://download.cnet.com/JPEGsnoop/3000-12...4-10920311.html

It will give you a detailed and clear report on the picture markers indicating editing and the program used to do it.

It's only fair that anyone considering this car does that to this extremely misleading picture.

I have to say, whoever did it was good with photoshop, nearly as good as whoever added the rims and clear indicators this picture:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Pi...59#entry4745959

[suprasearchin]

I did not make mistake i have reexaminte images and file rename and you right quality reduction to jpeg conversion has been done on file GTR 5 with photoeshop. It normal done for bitmap photo convert for email for internet upload. however offset length decode sos confirm no other edit to him.

It appear file NSJJJJJSSS converted with windows or similar from bmp to jpeg hence loose EXIF data and no camera match if you run through JPEGsnoop it should indicate uncertain if original. This will confirm for u.

Edited December 30, 2009 by suprasearchin

[GT-R32]

I did not make mistake i have reexaminte images and file rename and you right quality reduction to jpeg conversion has been done on file GTR 5 with photoeshop. It normal done for bitmap photo convert for email for internet upload. however offset length decode sos confirm no other edit to him.

It appear file NSJJJJJSSS converted with windows or similar from bmp to jpeg hence loose EXIF data and no camera match if you run through JPEGsnoop it should indicate uncertain if original. This will confirm for u.

Bullshit. It says the original image is exactly the same size as this one, taken two weeks prior. It says that the editing took place minutes before being posted by KR4. The program then goes on to advise on many other editing marks (chrominance, luminance, lino use, etc).

[Noy]

+1 for me too. but we need to stop chatting about this car.

There seems to be a few guys chasing R34 GTR's and this thread has got alot of information.

maybe a mod can clean this thread up and we can get back on topic.

[isr3]

+1 Me too!

Been following this thread with interest too!

Cheers

+1 me too as i'm in the market for a R34 gtr too

[Stachi]

+1

I don't quite understand that witch-hunt going on now..

Marc

[mxfly]

Christ, you have quite a cult following Chris so let the hunt continue I say!

[KR4-GTR]

Okay, as per my last post – I was just going to let this all go, but lets clarify a few things here.

Bottom line - Matt (GT-R32) is stll just depressed that i didn’t buy his car 3 years ago. It just proves a point that as per this thread, he just doesnt know how / when to let things go and he is the type of character that would just sit at home all day and search the internet for conflict. Even though he PM’d me months ago, and tried to put it all behind us – its obviously something that he is unable to do.

He would have had to search through 1000+ posts to try and find the slightest thing that links me to photoshop, and seriously to go to that manner of effort, it kind of freaks me out a lot. Like seriously, thats serial killer stalker type shit at its finiest.

350z was a shared account with a few 'friends' (which by the way - were idiots and i no longer hang out with) and I have already spoken to the mods about it, hence why im actually here now participating. You're not a mod - so stop pretending that you are. Again, bringing up the past and proving that you just cant let things go.

I still have to state the fact that all i did was post one an image that was sent to be along with a bucket load of others. For all I know, the seller photoshopped them all and sent them to me before he got them all done professionally. Realistically, I dont care. If he did - he got me, and ive moved on. In the scheme of things, its just one car and its an experience I was and still am ready to disregard and not dwell on.

In regards to me and photoshop, I can do small things. Who cant? However just to prove a point heres a few other pics of the same car you advised that I photoshopped rims and clear indicators on. It isnt even my car, it was on another forum up for sale with a blown bottom end. Its the same colour as my old GTR and from memory it was exactly what I wanted my car to look like, apart from it being a bit to high. So yes, I did use photoshop just to simply pull the wheels on it up to make it a bit lower. I can do simple things, blend images, put put wheels on cars - etc, and importantly yes - i can reduce file size so they are postable on forums (in this case - from memory - as always, i did do it, hence the 'edit' you see minutes before the post, however my photoshop training is just one 30 minute session for a general computer course at tafe. SO - being able to edit stuff to the point that it looks 100% real, sorry, but id be the first to admit that im not actually good at it and have no idea how suprasearchin would have even made that image displayed above.

Also, im sure if you were starting to fear for your safety (especially in a city you've never been before) and your phone had the functionality, you'd press record too.

So if you want to keep trying to make me look stupid in here - feel free, you're actually doing a pretty good job and i hope it makes you feel better about yourself. Keep on truckin you little keyboard warrior! I really dont care if you continue - but you've just made me waste another 10 minutes of my day typing all of this up and im seriously not going to waste anymore.

Either way your not going to get the reaction you desire from me, so sorry in advance to disappoint you. A few days time I wont even remember your name, so dont bother apologising to me, but everyone else will still have to read through your rubbish until its cleaned up, so go and apologise to all the other nice people in here that youve destroyed the thread and experience for.

Edited January 1, 2010 by KR4-GTR

[GT-R32]

This lie is easily covered: That photo you posted was edited minutes before you posted it using photoshop. It's blatantly obvious.

For someone who previously said they don't use photoshop, you now admit you do and have done a Tafe course? It matters not what you did to the pic, but that you are more then capable of doing it:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Wo...et-t273696.html

I give no shit about you not buying my car (LOL, how many other people also didn't buy it?). I gave a shit about you abusing me afterwards - and publically - and I give a shit about you doing the same to someone else. You sent me an abusive and personal message, after writing rubbish about me on the forum. Or was that one of your mates who shared the account?

You know exactly why you were banned on the other account, lying about sharing it (after previously lying about it being you) is actually pretty sad:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Ge...an-t273989.html

I wanted to move on. Which was why I sent the message. I had hoped you had matured a little is all. Everyone deserves another chance. It appears it was a little too much to ask.

You constantly lie and change your story, you abuse and insult people, you record phone calls illegally and you photoshop photos to support your negative story about someone on the internet. And you try to discredit me? Get your hand off it.