Few Stag Mods?

[euroequip]

hey all,

did a search but couldent find much info.

whats the go with installing a bov (HKS SSQ) on a M35? is there anything I would need to do to get it working correctly?

I know its a bit rice but since I got my licence 6 years ago, I have not had a turbo car with a bov so its about time to try it. Also, I don't really like the lenso wheels on the stag so if I wanted to swap to some nissan wheels like 350z or something, would they be a straight fit?

thanks

cam

Edited October 30, 2009 by euroequip

[andy65b]

hey all,

did a search but couldent find much info.

whats the go with installing a bov (HKS SSQ) on a M35? is there anything I would need to do to get it working correctly?

I know its a bit rice but since I got my licence 6 years ago, I have not had a turbo car with a bov so its about time to try it. Also, I don't really like the lenso wheels on the stag so if I wanted to swap to some nissan wheels like 350z or something, would they be a straight fit?

thanks

cam

No idea about the BOV but from what I have read about modded cars in Japan, most have stuck with the standard BOV as little benifit was found in fitting any others.

As for wheels, be aware that most the RWD Nissan's (AKA, 350Z V35's) have staggered offsets on the wheels front to back. As they do not have to worry about haveing the same rolling diameter on both front and back.

With the M35 you need equal offset and rolling diameter front and rear or the ATTESA can be buggered up.

IF you ever want to look at Brembo's or R32 brakes on the front you will need to make sure you have offset of about 36 to clear the callipers.

Good luck.

Cheers

Andy

[kidafa]

Is this your first mod?

Course you have had a turbo car with a BOV its got one on atm!

[wailiam]

Just put a pod filter on it... you should hear the standard BOV venting although not as loudly as a ricey one, will also give an aggressive induction noise.

[euroequip]

No idea about the BOV but from what I have read about modded cars in Japan, most have stuck with the standard BOV as little benifit was found in fitting any others.

As for wheels, be aware that most the RWD Nissan's (AKA, 350Z V35's) have staggered offsets on the wheels front to back. As they do not have to worry about haveing the same rolling diameter on both front and back.

With the M35 you need equal offset and rolling diameter front and rear or the ATTESA can be buggered up.

IF you ever want to look at Brembo's or R32 brakes on the front you will need to make sure you have offset of about 36 to clear the callipers.

Good luck.

Cheers

Andy

Thanks for that mate, I think I might try and find some autech axis wheels as I think they look great and will not be a problem if they are standard, esp good looking on silver M35s. Anyone got some for sale or better yet, swap for my lensos with new BF Goodrich tyres?

Is this your first mod?

Course you have had a turbo car with a BOV its got one on atm!

Theres a few existing mods by the previous owner. I just meant a loud bov haha.

Just put a pod filter on it... you should hear the standard BOV venting although not as loudly as a ricey one, will also give an aggressive induction noise.

The car already has a cat back 3" exhaust system and blitz pod and has a lovely induction noise but I coulden't hear any bov.. its not that important to me so I think I might just spend the extra cash and get a dump pipe made, any idea on rough costing for such a thing? is stainless steel any better than mild for the dump pipe? sorry guys, used to know my jap performance stuff but have spent the last 5-6 years in the watercooled vw scene

Edited October 30, 2009 by euroequip

[iamhe77]

Cam, if you can hold off for a couple of weeks, Scotty and I are looking into possibly making some nice Stainless Steel dump pipes up.

[euroequip]

Cam, if you can hold off for a couple of weeks, Scotty and I are looking into possibly making some nice Stainless Steel dump pipes up.

Sounds perfect mate, thanks!

[GoldZilla]

Cam, if you want some new Nissan rims off another model, I notice that when I bought my V35 rims for my C34, the wheels are the same all around, and it's the tyres that are a staggered fitment. They were all 18x8 +30, but the tyres were 225/45 on the front (or something similar), and 245/45 on the rear.

I'm not sure if 350Z rims would be the same, but if you find rims off another Nissan that you like, then do some research to check the actaul wheels sizes, and go from there!

[euroequip]

Cam, if you want some new Nissan rims off another model, I notice that when I bought my V35 rims for my C34, the wheels are the same all around, and it's the tyres that are a staggered fitment. They were all 18x8 +30, but the tyres were 225/45 on the front (or something similar), and 245/45 on the rear.

I'm not sure if 350Z rims would be the same, but if you find rims off another Nissan that you like, then do some research to check the actaul wheels sizes, and go from there!

Thanks for that mate! I have decided on Autech Axis wheels so now the search begins. I think I saw some for sale on here for $1100? Anyone have the link to that thread as I cant find it again?

Cheers

Cameron

[lilcrash]

as for the bov idea, most nissans run better withg a plumback as when you remove the return pipe it pours fuel down your exhaust, thus causing mass flames/burning cat.

as far as im awake as long as your front and back wheels are the same rolling diameter offset doesnt matter, ive got 18x8+6 on the rear and 18x8+35 on the front of mine and have absolutely no problems, actually i have no idea how any of you have fwd offset on the rear of ersyour cars, is eveyone using spacers? or is my car just a freak.

[horrace]

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you are correct offest is irrelevent its all about the rolling diameter.

[andy65b]

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you are correct offest is irrelevent its all about the rolling diameter.

It may be irrelevant on a C34 but we are talking about a M35.

There have been a number of people try different offsets with mixed results. Mostly not successful.

[Jetwreck]

FFS! . ...a C34 is different to the M35.....alot different.....what works on a C34 will not work on an M35 most of the time....how do I know....experience....I/We are going through what the C34's went through ten years ago but we don't have other cars in common to work from(R32,R33 & R34)....e.g how many cars had a V25DET? Do you not think any of the M35 owners have had any Nissan's before or have experience with mods? We are trying to sort out parts/mods for the M35 community but have a lot of obstacles to get through since it really is not a high volume import.

The only things that are the exactly the same are the name and brand....not trying to shoot anyone down but I am getting a little sick of C34 guy's saying "Well with my C34...." wish I had a dollar for every time some has said that to me.....Why don't you try a comment like " Have you tried.....?

Don't mind you passing comment but at least know that they are two totally different cars first!

Anyway not trying to piss anyone off and not having a shot at anyone in particular and I am probably out of line but it needs to be spelt out.

and yes....RANT is finished....sorry if I have offended anyone...not meaning too!!!!

P.S. The last generation of 350Z wheels look hot....just make sure you get either 4 rears or 4 fronts....or like Nick said try to find a nice set of late model V35 rims.

Edited October 31, 2009 by Jetwreck

[iamhe77]

Haha! Did you type that while on one of your "holidays" Mr. Tantipants?

Yes, I know (and agree) that the M35 with very, very, very different to the C34 and yes, alot of stuff that works on a C34 does not even come close to working on our M35's, but I would much rather have have someone say "well, on my C34..." than just "well, on my Stagea..."... just a way of C34 owners to identify how they fixed a similar issue on their car which may or may not work on ours.

I agree that it is frustrating that we have an orphan engine and a lot of mods are required to be custom parts made up ala Frankenstein as opposed to just picking which brand of what unit you want off the shelf, but for me, that is part and parcel of the cars we have and I think it makes for a more interesting mod scene.... but maybe that is just my masochistic side talking

Offset should be irrelevant in theory, but it is much easier if you stick to the same wheels front and back. After all, wouldn't there be a reason neither Nissan nor Nismo has differing offsets on their wheels for M35's?

[lilcrash]

i wasnt trying to cause annoyance, but it is a very well known fact that nissans dont like atmo bovs, (the person that opened this thread is a first time turbo person, its a useful fact)

as for the offset point i cant see any mechanical reason why offset should matter.(just personal knowledge)

[skyline_man]

Yeah, I would like to know why offset would affect the 4WD system on the M35. I know that offset does not affect ANY previous versions of GTRs and even the new R35. So why does it affect the M35? Has it got something to do with the stupid HICAS 4 wheel steering?

[GoldZilla]

Yeah, I would like to know why offset would affect the 4WD system on the M35. I know that offset does not affect ANY previous versions of GTRs and even the new R35. So why does it affect the M35? Has it got something to do with the stupid HICAS 4 wheel steering?

It's not the offset that affects the AWD system, it's the rolling diameter of the wheel/tyre combo. The AWD is electronically controlled, so when it senses the different wheel speeds between the front and rear axles, it thinks one end is spinning, so it transfers drive away from the axle it thinks is spinning.

I'm guessing that if it's constantly working when it's only really meant to work ONLY when there's a loss of traction (i.e. it's not a constant AWD system like in a Subaru), then maybe it overloads the pumps, etc. with more wear and tear than they're built for. Like I said, I'm only guessing, so if I'm way off, feel free to correct me.

ATTESA = Advanced Total Traction Engineering System for All-Terrain

It's got nothing to do with the HICAS.

[skyline_man]

It's not the offset that affects the AWD system, it's the rolling diameter of the wheel/tyre combo. The AWD is electronically controlled, so when it senses the different wheel speeds between the front and rear axles, it thinks one end is spinning, so it transfers drive away from the axle it thinks is spinning.

I'm guessing that if it's constantly working when it's only really meant to work ONLY when there's a loss of traction (i.e. it's not a constant AWD system like in a Subaru), then maybe it overloads the pumps, etc. with more wear and tear than they're built for. Like I said, I'm only guessing, so if I'm way off, feel free to correct me.

ATTESA = Advanced Total Traction Engineering System for All-Terrain

It's got nothing to do with the HICAS.

Yes, I know that the rolling diameter effects the 4WD system but Jetset says that offset effects the 4WD system as well on the M35 and I would like to know how since I don't see any reason why offset should affect it.

[andy65b]

Yes, I know that the rolling diameter effects the 4WD system but Jetset says that offset effects the 4WD system as well on the M35 and I would like to know how since I don't see any reason why offset should affect it.

Now you are asking the million dollar question of "How & Why".

There is so little information available off the shelf we are still trying to work out the "WHY" part.

If we knew the answer it would be really easy but all we know at the moment is that a number of people in the early days of the M35 put staggered offsets on their cars and the ATTESA was acting up. Also I have seen one car that has put on staggered offset and he said he had no problem but he has now sold his car.

But we need more people to experiment so I say go for the staggered offset and let us know how you go.

[mattye]

What about go to a tyre place. See if they've got some spare steelies with tyres on them. Get 2 one width/offset and get 2 another. N test away.

I can't see how it would (it doesn't affect the system on C34's but stranger things have happened).