Track Report: Rota Rims And P-cup Slicks..

[TwoCents]

APS ,

give up

I think they should both give up... good job ruining a good research thread

[conan7772]

I think they should both give up... good job ruining a good research thread

Hasn't been completely ruined, it's just elevated the question of quality.

LSX had new rims that didn't last 6 months.

Yes it's a 1700 kg R35 and capable of huge wheel loads.

ROTA ARE ADVERTISING THEIR NEW RANGE AS RACE WHEELS !

Given safety is paramount, this is an area where they could really end up in trouble.

If someone or several people die due to wheel failure and can be proven to be a manufacture fault, and directly responsible for the incident, they could end up in a monumental law suit, however track disclaimers would probably save them.

Now Rota are on the up and up, clearly sales are increasing world wide.

I'm still considering some and have been following these discussions closely, not only in Australia, they're everywhere, and constantly recurring.

Yes there are heaps of Rotas around, and more and more people are enjoying amateur motorsport, but the bottom line is, these discussions WILL eventually get back to Rota headquarters and they'd want to bloody well discuss it.

Look at this positivley.

This thread hasn't been unkind to Rota, it's just questioning their limitations.

Something EVERYONE should be aware of before they hit the track.

[Adelaideprosound]

APS ,

give up

Look at my post above yours where i said "shakes head" and that should pretty much explain to you that i gave up already .

No point in trying to teach an internet troll the realities of real world living.

[Adelaideprosound]

I think they should both give up... good job ruining a good research thread

Well if you read my posts i am actually fighting to save teh research thread, and trying to explain that he should keep his mouth and opinions to himself.

[Beer Baron]

for the love of god adelaidePS and nisskid both of you stop posting this nonsense. any more arguing in this thread will see some kind of warning/banning/deleting action taken.

it's tedious and pointless. if you want to continue your argument then by all means use facebook or msn or pm or whatever, just not this thread.

[Adelaideprosound]

for the love of god adelaidePS and nisskid both of you stop posting this nonsense. any more arguing in this thread will see some kind of warning/banning/deleting action taken.

it's tedious and pointless. if you want to continue your argument then by all means use facebook or msn or pm or whatever, just not this thread.

Was i the only one arguing?, or were there others involved. Read my posts above.

[benhpi]

Guys PLEASE let me do my homework before you slander a forum sponsor. I've posted this info so others an see a potential outcome of running such rims on a 1700kg car, with slicks, running say 1:02's around wakefield, with 1mm caliper clearance. I believe these wheels have taken a lot of punishment and extreme heat (here are my brembo's after superlap for reference) it's possible/likely i have pushed these wheels beyond their intended purpose to be frank.

Speaking of which Duncan, when are you going to bring these in so we can see them? I have sent your photos to Rota and they want to see more. I imagine that they will replace them once they are satisfied they haven't been driven into any gutters.

Ben - Otomoto

[LSX-438]

Speaking of which Duncan, when are you going to bring these in so we can see them? I have sent your photos to Rota and they want to see more. I imagine that they will replace them once they are satisfied they haven't been driven into any gutters.

Ben - Otomoto

I may get time to drop them off soon Ben. The rims have been "smashed" around a lot, i dont expect warranty.

[JGB33]

I am glad someone said for those two guys to stop shitting on at each other,no offence but i started reading all this to see about the rota rims.is nothing better than when someone can give good feedback on what they use.i am running a 33 gtr at the moment run michelin slicks car weighs 1750 and i am pushing it hard 57.7 on the sprint track at Q.R and 58.6 at lakeside.i have been interested in this topic as i broke afront right hand tri spoke set of advans at Q.R on the national track on the 15th july,i was braking hard and turning into turn 4 and bang, one of the spokes snapped clean.I had been running these wheels for over 6 years,so probably fatigue ,so i have put my slicks onto my rota wheels.iam about to buy some new ones for the slicks and just use the rotas for wet weather.anyway very interesting.

[nisskid]

what model tri-spoke advans?

tri-spoke is generally a pretty bad design, less distribution of spoke strength, i personally wouldnt run any of the tri-spoke models on a hard track car i dont think any, maybe the super advans, maybe, are really track orientated. although 6 years isnt that bad i guess, i still dont like the idea of wheels failing without incident.

[LSX-438]

I am glad someone said for those two guys to stop shitting on at each other,no offence but i started reading all this to see about the rota rims.is nothing better than when someone can give good feedback on what they use.i am running a 33 gtr at the moment run michelin slicks car weighs 1750 and i am pushing it hard 57.7 on the sprint track at Q.R and 58.6 at lakeside.i have been interested in this topic as i broke afront right hand tri spoke set of advans at Q.R on the national track on the 15th july,i was braking hard and turning into turn 4 and bang, one of the spokes snapped clean.I had been running these wheels for over 6 years,so probably fatigue ,so i have put my slicks onto my rota wheels.iam about to buy some new ones for the slicks and just use the rotas for wet weather.anyway very interesting.

Shock horror! a rim (other than Rota) fails? surely not! fwiw, a few people have told me about various rims cracking like yours. It happens. Just dont bother posting details, the keyboard eggsperts will delight in lecturing the how/why/wherefores, how and where you obviously went wrong, and thus how it could never happen to them.

It's the first and last time i'll bother, that's for sure.

[BTM]

Funnily enough i actually spoke to simmons wheels a while back about doing this; went to go down there for a measure session.. just before they closed their doors forever! But handbrake (on these forums) just got some from ccw wheels; i may go down that path as soon as his reports experience with them (they are 18's fwiw, and he's running slicks too). They are probably the "best" option, with far superior clearance vs any of the rays stuff.

Another great alternative would be the SSR range (SP1, MS1, VS1 etc etc). They are an extremely strong (stronger than Simmons) and light multi-piece wheel that can be custom built to your specifications.

The best bet would be to contact Jesse Streeter in Japan ([email protected] or jessestreeter.com) and have him get a custom set built to suit R35 GT-R in either 18 or 19 inch as you require.

Will be far better service and prices than the crap on offer in Australia

[BTM]

Overall I must say that 80% of this thread is a joke. Nisskid may get on some people's nerves about the way he approaches these things, but for the most part he is generally correct. There are plenty of members on here that have proven their lack of intelligence and proven they have no idea whatsoever regarding the issues at hand.

Yet they resort to name calling like children and mocking others that are correct, while they are wrong.

So many f*cking idiots on this site.

why are people comparing these rims to te37 and other high end wheels when they are more then double the price of these rims and obviously better quality. these should be compared with wheels on the lower end of the market such as work emotions. im sure if they received alot of track work the will probably crack too as they're just a cast rim also.

I would hardly consider the Emotions and the Rotas in the same barrel. The quality are completely different levels.

The majority of enkei rims are cast and are often confused with forget rims, they are also light and strong.

Rays engineering also makes cast rims for gram lights and others.

Enkei also use a completely different production method and high quality materials that eliminate the cheap and nasty issues found with the basic crap.

They are nowhere near the same.

roh make custom offsets and sizes for their 3 piece rims

They also weight 3 tonnes per corner.

Speaking of which Duncan, when are you going to bring these in so we can see them? I have sent your photos to Rota and they want to see more. I imagine that they will replace them once they are satisfied they haven't been driven into any gutters.

Ben - Otomoto

Hardly the point lol. The wheels are NOT race wheels and not up to the loading the 35 puts on them using slicks.

It's not a bad thing against Rota. They're cheap wheels, for cheap uses.

High end motorsport is not their intention. So they shouldn't be used for it.

[siksII]

"30 years of innovation and quality engineering has brought Rota Wheels to the fore-front of Motorsports. “There is no better endorser for Rota Wheels other than the professional race car drivers and teams and the hordes of motorsports enthusiasts who have tried and tested our wheels in the various Motorsports disciplines around the world"

http://www.rotawheels.com/news.asp?newsid=2

[Yeedogga]

I think thanks should be given to the OP for going out on a limb and posting his experience. Good on you mate.

Those in the "I told you so" camp are precisely the reason why good information like this rarely surfaces.

I've got no ill feelings toward against Nisskid et al, but...

How many of you can honestly say you have never investigated the potential of a cheaper alternative, done some research and inquiry and decided to go with the cheaper option??!

Edited August 25, 2010 by Yeedogga

[nisskid]

I think thanks should be given to the OP for going out on a limb and posting his experience. Good on you mate.

Those in the "I told you so" camp are precisely the reason why good information like this rarely surfaces.

I've got no ill feelings toward against Nisskid et al, but...

How many of you can honestly say you have never investigated the potential of a cheaper alternative, done some research and inquiry and decided to go with the cheaper option??!

i agree with you, hence why i never did the i told you so thing, i think it takes balls to post up after it all, i only came back in here to counter a few people who started defending the failure as if it was OK. it's not ok to have wheels that fail simply from hard use, whether it's ROTA's or another brand.

[nisskid]

How many of you can honestly say you have never investigated the potential of a cheaper alternative, done some research and inquiry and decided to go with the cheaper option??!

i do it all the time, hence why i dont mind buying the cheaper FMIC's etc, but when it comes to things like wheels and suspension components, there is enough evidence out there to say that they do break, maybe i'll be lucky, maybe i wont, but f**ked if im gonna risk it when it's what's holding me to the road at over 150k's.

[LSX-438]

Another great alternative would be the SSR range (SP1, MS1, VS1 etc etc). They are an extremely strong (stronger than Simmons) and light multi-piece wheel that can be custom built to your specifications.

The best bet would be to contact Jesse Streeter in Japan ([email protected] or jessestreeter.com) and have him get a custom set built to suit R35 GT-R in either 18 or 19 inch as you require.

Will be far better service and prices than the crap on offer in Australia

Cheers for that, will try and look into those.

[DCIEVE]

Another great alternative would be the SSR range (SP1, MS1, VS1 etc etc). They are an extremely strong (stronger than Simmons) and light multi-piece wheel that can be custom built to your specifications.

The best bet would be to contact Jesse Streeter in Japan ([email protected] or jessestreeter.com) and have him get a custom set built to suit R35 GT-R in either 18 or 19 inch as you require.

Will be far better service and prices than the crap on offer in Australia

I can't speak for the other ssr models but the sp1's are not by any means light, and brake clearance is a real problem!

[STATUS]

I can't speak for the other ssr models but the sp1's are not by any means light, and brake clearance is a real problem!

Brake clearance should be no problem with the different hi and lo disc spoke options.