Legislation On Roll Cages

[filo_a31]

Ok. My A31 cefiro has a full cage which i know is illegal and cannot be engineered.

However, ive heard that half cages can be engineered.

I have also heard in 2 door coupes to engineer a half cage, the back seats need to be removed along with the rear seat belts.

If this is true. How does this work with a 4 door like my A31?

Can someone shed some light on this situation for me please?

[scathing]

You can't have a cage in a location where an occupant can possibly strike their head.

Your options are to get a removable cage, and only fit it for off-street events, or delete the seating positions where the cage is permanently installed.

[soulfire]

depends on the state, but from my understanding (mum works in registrations for vicroads) scathing is correct, for vic at least

[R31Nismoid]

You can easily get half cages Engineered/Rego'd in your state. You just work in the guidelines set out.

Simply talk to the relevant transport authority, or better yet, talk to a cage fabricator. They generally are the best people to talk too.

If the cage business says they do not know, go to one that does. A decent workshop that takes interest will know and be upto date with the laws.

I do believe you can get a half cage legal and retain rear seats.

I think you are NSW, so the Vic info i have won't help you.

[Iron Chef]

The same basic rules apply for all states though - the cage mustn't be within a certain distance of the occupants (I can't remember the exact distance any more) and must be padded. I'm yet to see a decent cage design that allows anyone to keep the rear seats, so work on the theory that your car will become a two seater.

[mad082]

you will often need padding around certain parts of the cage too.

[Juan]

can roll cages be welded then be registered.

i heard cages can only be bolted in not welded to the chassis??

[PM-R33]

Yeah im pretty certain in QLD for registration cages have to be bolted in only and not welded. I'm looking into this for next year aswell as i want a registrable half cage that is cams approved.

Edited November 14, 2009 by PM-R33

[32_Dave]

what is the story on bolt in full cages? as in with the front hoops that go around dash?

[Iron Chef]

what is the story on bolt in full cages? as in with the front hoops that go around dash?

Full cages are a no-no, unless your car is on race/rally rego and you enjoy wearing a helmet everywhere lol

[32_Dave]

Full cages are a no-no, unless your car is on race/rally rego and you enjoy wearing a helmet everywhere lol

emagine the looks from other drivers. so full bolt in can be legal if its plated / run as a half cage?

[JGB33]

No of 2 guys one in a evo 8 and another in a 33 gtr in QLD that have full roll cage, type that goes around the dash, bolt in, that are both mod plated,but are reg as 2 seaters.

[dusty]

can weld in in the ACT im pretty sure

[Peter89]

Full cages are a no-no, unless your car is on race/rally rego and you enjoy wearing a helmet everywhere lol

wrong. depends on the state.

it is legal in victoria as long as you follow of the restrictions of how close the cage comes into the passenger zones.

edit, such cages would have to go through the dash, cages going around the dash(not only do they suck) but they wouldn't pass.

Edited July 6, 2010 by Peter89

[DRFTD_32]

I recently got a new car and it has a full 6 point cage.

It is engineered and registered. I can get the details of the engineers report if anyone is interested.

I have also seen at my old work a 9 point cage in a GT3 porsche that was also engineered with removable side intrusion bars with very similar wording in it.

[alr33x]

wrong. depends on the state.

it is legal in victoria as long as you follow of the restrictions of how close the cage comes into the passenger zones.

edit, such cages would have to go through the dash, cages going around the dash(not only do they suck) but they wouldn't pass.

not true if my memory is correct when i spoke to brown davis he said only half cages are legal, and that he wrote the RWC conditions on roll cages so seems to know his stuff

having said this my memory may be wrong.