Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

Ok lets just get one thing straight... I NEED a sub in my car. I refuse to put 6x9's in and ever since my home stereo went from 1600 watt PA speakers to Monitor Audio Silver series my ears have become fussy.

I intend to figure out the inside of my car myself (with the help of a shop and people feel free to suggest a quality installer not too far from the eastern suburbs of Sydney cos I'm not from here originally) but sub wise I'm short of information.

My initial thought is to mount a really nice 10" right in the hole behind the armrest and fold it down when stereo is on. If room allows I'd like it to be in a ported (to the front) enclosure but I don't think it's worth while porting it if I can't fit a big enough baffle in to keep the driver far enough away from the port. (Could a tube style port work here?)

Perhaps I should just mount the 10" on a board that seals the interior from the boot?

It has also been suggested to me that I could put a 12" (or maybe 2) back in the corner of the boot instead but it doesn't feel right to me.

Sorry for the long post but my audio knowledge is rusty (and originally learnt from the PA side of things) and I'd like to go to an installer with as much info in my head as possible.

PS Should there be a light in my boot, cos if there is it aint working?

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/29578-r34-gt-t-sub-options/
Share on other sites

If u just mount it like that, u'll need a free to air sub, most subs work best in a box made with the correct volume to that sub, either ported or sealed.

sealed would be the tightest bass, which i assume is what u want judging by the way u talk about ur home audio setup. Ported would be more bassy and not as accurate.

General rule for sizes is 10inch for 5inch splits, 6inch splits = 12inch subs, and 15's are for 8inch splits .

I think FHRX installs in sydney...not sure though, im not from syd (:

msg him..he can show u pics he's done im sure.

In most Skyline's where the owner just wants a little bottom end we usually install a 10" in a small sealed enclosure under the parcel shelf.

I certainly do install in Sydney and I'm more than happy to advise you on your R34 system.

Simply email me on [email protected] or visit our website. :D

In most Skyline's where the owner just wants a little bottom end we usually install a 10" in a small sealed enclosure under the parcel shelf.

I certainly do install in Sydney and I'm more than happy to advise you on your R34 system.

Simply email me on [email protected] or visit our website. :D

marty did my R33 and i am very happy with the result, the R34 has a little more space in the boot (i believe) so a few more options for you.

the 10" sub is tucked away in a small box, neat install with tight bass.

give him a call

Anyone have any experience of big amps/subs causing HICAS to go all weird? A couple of people have reported such problems on the UK boards. I'm just wondering 'cause I have an amp/sub waiting to go into my R34, but I've been put off until I can be sure my car aint going to be shaking its ass to da music! :D

:headbang:

Dave

I've just put in a soundstream picasso, 1 farad cap and a phoneix gold crossover in the aclove where the hicas computer resides (If the hicas computer is the one on the left hand side of the boot then the amp is sitting directly under it, I had to bend the computer bracket so that the computer sits about an inch higher than standard). Also got a temporary 1&1/2 cubic ft box with a 12 inch soundstream exact floating in the boot which will changed to a 1 cubic ft box and anchored into the right hand corner possibly next week. I have had this for just over a week now and haven't had any problems with the hicas.

Thanks guys. I have spoken to Fhrx and am going a small box but high powered 10" in that hole on the shelf in the boot. The amp will also be able to run two of the internal speakers and they will have sound deadening put behind them. I'm going for a new deck but will leave the rest of the interior till the next time I want to waste some money in this direction.

This is a bloody addiction. I only just bought the car and I'm lining up this stereo upgrade, new zorst and bilsteins to go in over the next month.

Am I crazy?

no (: keep going!

luckily i'll have all my audio already done from this car so when i buy my new car in 2 months time i dont have to worry about it, i can concentrate on some mods for the car. Currently have a honda accord...so theres not much i can do except audio ! but when i get my s14...my car audio bug will go away i think.

I'm more worried about sound waves bouncing off each other in the boot before they get to the cabin making the sound muddier. One of the first things I learnt about sound (and like I said my knowledge is not car audio) is not to put speakers in corners.

You can tell what I mean if you go home and move your speakers into the corners of your room with some volume. Walk around the room and move your head up and down and you'll notice that there are far more spots with strange things going on like dead spots and woofy vibrating bass areas (bad explanation I know). Basically in some areas you are getting phase cancellation and in others the waves are actually amplifying each other but because the waves for each frequency are different lengths different frequencies will be affected in different parts of the room.

I don't know if the corner of a boot is that much of an issue because the only sound reflecting material in there is the boot lid itself but I guess I would need to hear a setup like that or at least have it described to me in detail to understand. Maybe the lower frequencies will be stronger in that setup because the waves have further to travel before they get to your ears??? Then again I suppose that's what an eq is for.

  • 4 weeks later...
  • 1 month later...

Hi everyone!

I have just purchased an R34 and am looking to install a full sound system too. i was wondering if anyone had any photos of their boot install/setup. i wanna get some ideas of where to have things placed etc... any help would be great!

and 666DAN: what "battery compartment area in the boot" ? i was looking in my boot last nite [for a very long time], and cannot think of where u r talking about... ?

Ha ha. In the R33's there is a battery compartment on that shelf behind the back seat but it's not there in the R34, that's why 666DAN was able to put a sub there.

I've been a bit slack with mine but it is coming along. My box has been built but I haven't covered it yet or done any of my wiring.

And Wolverine, if you're reading this, I sppreciated your offer, I just bumped into someone with one and heard it then. Cheers mate.

have the sub or subs facing towards the ass end of the boot, the bass reflects off the boot and back in the cabin better and stronger. most people face them forwards but its better facing them backwards, much more effictive (well in a coupe anyway).

ive got 2 x 12" aplines facing outwards in my boot, kicks ass. amps are under the parcel shelf, causes no problems with hicas

i wanted to get my subs in the parcel shelf or facing forwards but was warned highly against it, much more effective facing the other way

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Jdm DC2R is also nice for a FF car compared to the regular hatches of the time.
    • Now that the break-in period for both clutch and transmission is nearly over I'd like to give some tips before I forget about everything that happened, also for anyone searching up how to do this job in the future: You will need at least 6 ton jack stands at full extension. I would go as far as to say maybe consider 12 ton jack stands because the height of the transmission + the Harbor Freight hydraulic platform-style transmission jack was enough that it was an absolute PITA getting the transmission out from under the car and back in. The top edge of the bellhousing wants to contact the subframe and oil pan and if you're doing this on the floor forget about trying to lift this transmission off the ground and onto a transmission jack from under the car. Also do not try to use a scissor jack transmission lift. You have to rotate the damn thing in-place on the transmission jack which is hard enough with an adjustable platform and a transmission cradle that will mostly keep the transmission from rolling off the jack but on a scissor lift with a tiny non-adjustable platform? Forget it. Use penetrating oil on the driveshaft bolts. I highly recommend getting a thin 6 point combination (box end + open end) wrench for both the rear driveshaft and front driveshaft and a wrench extension. These bolts are on tight with very little space to work with and those two things together made a massive difference. Even a high torque impact wrench is just the wrong tool for the job here and didn't do what I needed it to do. If your starter bolts aren't seized in place for whatever reason you can in fact snake in a 3/8 inch ratchet + 6 point standard chrome socket up in there and "just" remove the bolts for the starter. Or at least I could. It is entirely by feel, you can barely fit it in, you can barely turn the stupid ratchet, but it is possible. Pull the front pipe/downpipe before you attempt to remove the transmission. In theory you don't have to, in practice just do it.  When pulling the transmission on the way out you don't have to undo all the bolts holding the rear driveshaft to the chassis like the center support bearing and the rear tunnel reinforcement bar but putting the transmission back in I highly recommend doing this because it will let you raise the transmission without constantly dealing with the driveshaft interfering in one way or another. I undid the bottom of the engine mount but I honestly don't know that it helped anything. If you do this make sure you put a towel on the back of the valve cover to keep the engine from smashing all the pipes on the firewall. Once the transmission has been pulled back far enough to clear the dowels you need to twist it in place clockwise if you're sitting behind the transmission. This will rotate the starter down towards the ground. The starter bump seems like it might clear if you twist the transmission the other way but it definitely won't. I have scraped the shit out of my transmission tunnel trying so learn from my mistake. You will need a center punch and an appropriate size drill bit and screw to pull the rear main seal. Then use vice grips and preferably a slide hammer attachment for those vice grips to yank the seal out. Do not let the drill or screw contact any part of the crank and clean the engine carefully after removing the seal to avoid getting metal fragments into the engine. I used a Slide Hammer and Bearing Puller Set, 5 Piece from Harbor Freight to pull the old pilot bearing. The "wet paper towel" trick sucked and just got dirty clutch water everywhere. Buy the tool or borrow it from a friend and save yourself the pain. It comes right out. Mine was very worn compared to the new one and it was starting to show cracks. Soak it in engine oil for a day in case yours has lost all of the oil to the plastic bag it comes in. You may be tempted to get the Nismo aftermarket pilot bearing but local mechanics have told me that they fail prematurely and if they do fail they do far more damage than a failed OEM pilot bushing. I mentioned this before but the Super Coppermix Twin clutch friction disks are in fact directional. The subtle coning of the fingers in both cases should be facing towards the center of the hub. So the coning on the rearmost disk closest to the pressure plate should go towards the engine, and the one closest to the flywheel should be flipped the other way. Otherwise when you torque down the pressure plate it will be warped and if you attempt to drive it like this it will make a very nasty grinding noise. Also, there is in fact an orientation to the washers for the pressure plate if you don't want to damage the anodizing. Rounded side of the washer faces the pressure plate. The flat side faces the bolt head. Pulling the transmission from the transfer case you need to be extremely careful with the shift cover plate. This part is discontinued. Try your best to avoid damaging the mating surfaces or breaking the pry points. I used a dead blow rubber hammer after removing the bolts to smack it sideways to slide it off the RTV the previous mechanic applied. I recommend using gasket dressing on the OEM paper gasket to try and keep the ATF from leaking out of that surface which seems to be a perpetual problem. Undoing the shifter rod end is an absolute PITA. Get a set of roll pin punches. Those are mandatory for this. Also I strongly, strongly recommend getting a palm nailer that will fit your roll pin punch. Also, put a clean (emphasis on clean) towel wrapped around the back end of the roll pin to keep it from shooting into the transfer case so you can spend a good hour or two with a magnet on a stick getting it out. Do not damage the shifter rod end either because those are discontinued as well. Do not use aftermarket flywheel bolts. Or if you do, make sure they are exactly the same dimensions as OEM before you go to install them. I have seen people mention that they got the wrong bolts and it meant having to do the job again. High torque impact wrench makes removal easy. I used some combination of a pry bar and flathead screwdriver to keep the flywheel from turning but consider just buying a proper flywheel lock instead. Just buy the OS Giken clutch alignment tool from RHDJapan. I hated the plastic alignment tool and you will never be confident this thing will work as intended. Don't forget to install the Nismo provided clutch fork boot. Otherwise it will make unearthly noises when you press the clutch pedal as it says on the little installation sheet in Japanese. Also, on both initial disassembly and assembly you must follow torque sequence for the pressure plate bolts. For some reason the Nismo directions tell you to put in the smaller 3 bolts last. I would not do this. Fully insert and thread those bolts to the end first, then tighten the other larger pressure plate bolts according to torque sequence. Then at the end you can also torque these 3 smaller bolts. Doing it the other way can cause these bolts to bind and the whole thing won't fit as it should. Hope this helps someone out there.
    • Every one has seemed to of have missed . . . . . . . The Mazda Cosmo . . . . . . what a MACHINE ! !
×
×
  • Create New...