Why do people hate the R33?

[Steve85]

1 hour ago, GTSBoy said:

Oh.  And the tailights.  They're wrong too.

I was happy to let you have your opinion. But this, this is too far!!! 

^This is literally every single argument about aesthetics on this forum.

Haha, but seriously and you'll get this a lot with two people with potentially different people. I love the 33 taillights of all the models (R31 close second, follow by 32, followed distantly by 34).

Edited November 23, 2018 by Steve85

[BakemonoRicer]

Gtsboy you sound like a misinformed art agent. I have a reputation as a womaniser and just about every woman from the americas, south americas and locally loves the shape of the R33 over all the rest. Deal with it...the R33 preservation society doesnt need to listen to your nonsense. 

[admS15]

They're a bit like a face that only a mother can love. I've grown to like mine but mainly for the performance.

[GTSBoy]

This is a thread about why people hate the R33.  Not why they should love it.  Arguments both ways are perfectly valid.  Although anyone claiming the R33's looks are superior is taking it too far.  Can't be superior when there's so much wrong!

Nevertheless, I don't hate it.  I just hate the way it looks.  The R33 preservation society is being beaten by the flatbrimmer-slide-em-sideways-into-trees squad anyway.  So it shouldn't be too long before they're all gone anyway.  Luckily the last few good R32s were saved by never being sold to the previous generation of those dickheads.

[hardsteppa]

Lol r32's just look weird. Not ugly but far from attractive...like an inbred homecoming queen from Louisianna; just doesn't look right.

I wasn't previously aware of the R33 over R34 track ability that has been posted, but that's pretty cool info. I was aware of this piece of awesomeness though ☝️

 

[FedBpy2018]

Lol, a good example of a highly expensive car not worth its money in my opinion

[whatsisname]

That's one of the main reasons why it looks like a fat cow.  It's not just wide.  It's too tall - both at the base of the windscreen and also in the rear quarters.  It looks bulky and without any design tension.  Just looks like it's been inflated.  With lard.
I think you get too carried away with how much better the the R33 GTR is over all the others.  Nobody really gives a stuff if a stock 33 was 30 seconds (pick a number, I certainly don't care) faster around the 'ring than a 34 was.  Absolutely anything to do with performance is subject to modification.  Anybody who really cares about how hard you can drive a GTR is perfectly willing to modify it.
What you cannot do is change the fact that the R32 has a sweet profile, the R34 has a sharper edged version of that sweet profile, and the R33 just has so many wrong design elements that it is totally unappealing to look at, in the opinion of a significant fraction of people who care.  Including me.
Now, some guys like fuc[ing fat women.  That's fine, as long as I don't have to watch.  I feel somewhat the same about R33s.  When it comes to non-GTRs, the only that that R33s are good for is brake and engine donors for R32s and Silvias.  When it comes to GTRs, I'd probably rather a deal where I get one nice R32 than 2 nice R33s (assuming I'm not allowed to then sell for profit/disposal).  I'd certainly take 1 R34 over 2 R33s.
Oh.  And the tailights.  They're wrong too.

It's interesting to note that the most famous car movie franchise in history has featured the Skyline as one of the "hero" cars on a few occasions. Both the R33 and R34 were used in the early movies when the cars were as much a part of the storyline as the characters. The R32 has been overlooked as a featured car. I wonder why...

[GTSBoy]

3 hours ago, whatsisname said:

21 hours ago, GTSBoy said:

 

It's interesting to note that the most famous car movie franchise in history has featured the Skyline as one of the "hero" cars on a few occasions. Both the R33 and R34 were used in the early movies when the cars were as much a part of the storyline as the characters. The R32 has been overlooked as a featured car. I wonder why...

 

Because it was already old at the time.  The US is devoid of the R32 culture that we have in Australia.  That's the US's fault, not the R32.  Car movie makers who don't really give a shit about anything except making a profit are not in it to promote the car culture.  They just pick a vehicle that they think will appeal and run with it.  The R33 was pretty much the most recent GTR at the time of F&F.  R34s would have actually been too new to consider ruining in a movie at that point (~1999-2000 when they were producing it).  Hell, if I were looking to make such a movie, I'd pick the R33 too.  Doesn't change my opinion of what they look like though.

Hell - if the R33 GTR is such a stunner in person.....why did one pull into the carpark at the shops at the same time I did and it took me until I walked past it to realise it was a GTR and not just another GTST?  Simply because they actually do not have all that much presence unless they are in that purple colour.

[whatsisname]

Sounds like you've got some kind of inferiority complex over this stuff.
They've made Fast and Furious movies for years and featured some the most iconic tuner and enthusiast cars from around the world, everything from US muscle to old school British Escort. If the R32 was "the" Skyline of the R32 through R34 era they'd have featured it. They haven't.

[Robocop2310]

23 hours ago, GTSBoy said:

That's one of the main reasons why it looks like a fat cow.  It's not just wide.  It's too tall - both at the base of the windscreen and also in the rear quarters.  It looks bulky and without any design tension.  Just looks like it's been inflated.  With lard.

I think you get too carried away with how much better the the R33 GTR is over all the others.  Nobody really gives a stuff if a stock 33 was 30 seconds (pick a number, I certainly don't care) faster around the 'ring than a 34 was.  Absolutely anything to do with performance is subject to modification.  Anybody who really cares about how hard you can drive a GTR is perfectly willing to modify it.

What you cannot do is change the fact that the R32 has a sweet profile, the R34 has a sharper edged version of that sweet profile, and the R33 just has so many wrong design elements that it is totally unappealing to look at, in the opinion of a significant fraction of people who care.  Including me.

Now, some guys like fuc[ing fat women.  That's fine, as long as I don't have to watch.  I feel somewhat the same about R33s.  When it comes to non-GTRs, the only that that R33s are good for is brake and engine donors for R32s and Silvias.  When it comes to GTRs, I'd probably rather a deal where I get one nice R32 than 2 nice R33s (assuming I'm not allowed to then sell for profit/disposal).  I'd certainly take 1 R34 over 2 R33s.

Oh.  And the tailights.  They're wrong too.

Let’s get something clear...the R33 GTR is not fat but is curvy there is a difference. It’s like saying a man is muscular vs fat or a woman is fat vs curvy. To your analogy, I like my cars curvy just like I do my women. 

I guess you like yours body and flat! ?

I dislike the R32 GTR most as it’s jist toi sticky skinny and flat in the wrong ways. 

My personal preferences in terms of looks:

1. R33 GTR

2. R34 GTR

3. R32 GTR

4. Skyline 2000 GTR

5. Skyline Hakosuka GTX

6. R35 GTR piece of dog crap bird shit excuse 

[Robocop2310]

22 hours ago, Steve85 said:

I was happy to let you have your opinion. But this, this is too far!!! 

^This is literally every single argument about aesthetics on this forum.

Haha, but seriously and you'll get this a lot with two people with potentially different people. I love the 33 taillights of all the models (R31 close second, follow by 32, followed distantly by 34).

Totally agree on the GTR taillights.

R33 and R32 best then they crapped on it with the R34 and kinda return to the R33 look with the R35!

[Robocop2310]

7 hours ago, hardsteppa said:

Lol r32's just look weird. Not ugly but far from attractive...like an inbred homecoming queen from Louisianna; just doesn't look right.

I wasn't previously aware of the R33 over R34 track ability that has been posted, but that's pretty cool info. I was aware of this piece of awesomeness though ☝️

 

Love it!!! Ha ha R33 GTR represent!

[The Bogan]

I would like a mint 32 GTST 26/30 and lay mad skids.

I'm over AWD.

Oh, and a mint stock 32 GTR for the garage. 

Come on Lotto....

[GTSBoy]

I must say, that while I absolutely stick by what I say about the appearance of R33s, you guys are so easy to bait over it.

[Robocop2310]

29 minutes ago, mlr said:

I would like a mint 32 GTST 26/30 and lay mad skids.

I'm over AWD.

Oh, and a mint stock 32 GTR for the garage. 

Come on Lotto....

Interesting view...I’ve heard a few people actually say RWD is more fun. But how?

[Robocop2310]

25 minutes ago, GTSBoy said:

I must say, that while I absolutely stick by what I say about the appearance of R33s, you guys are so easy to bait over it.

I must admit, you get worked up so easily! ?

[The Bogan]

22 minutes ago, GTSBoy said:

I must say, that while I absolutely stick by what I say about the appearance of R33s, you guys are so easy to bait over it.

I like when someone's opinion is questioned.

It's like kindergarten.

Your wrong, na ahh, yeah, na ahh, my dad could beat up your dad, na ahhh, yes way, your not my friend anymore, but I'm  still your mums friend, "BAM", "KAPOW"...FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

[Ben C34]

5 minutes ago, Robocop2310 said:

Interesting view...I’ve heard a few people actually say RWD is more fun. But how?

You have also heard an Rb26 looks like a match box.

 

 

 

 

Not sure what my point is.

[The Bogan]

18 minutes ago, Robocop2310 said:

Interesting view...I’ve heard a few people actually say RWD is more fun. But how?

Because front engine RWD manual is soooo much more fun IMO.

From my experience the only real world benifit of AWD is in the wet or on icy roads.

Unless your trying to put down big power, but even then, a well setup RWD can be just as fast, if not quicker.

Horses for courses.

In the end everyone is an individual (I'm not) so what looks like a boat to one person, looks good to another.

I would rather a R31 GTS -R than a 33 or 34.

Edit: I owned a 33 GTST a few years ago, f**king money pit.

[Robocop2310]

9 minutes ago, Ben C34 said:

You have also heard an Rb26 looks like a match box.

 

 

 

 

Not sure what my point is.

It kinda does you know. I’m a little baffled what your point is too.