Why do people hate the R33?

[dyl33]

6 hours ago, GTofuS-T said:

personally, if i went down the GTR road, it would probably be an R32, I drive an R33 GTS-T, and the  R33 GT-R is too similar and i wouldn't enjoy it, it would just be a subtle change to what i already have for a shit tonne more money.

I sort of agree not the 32 part, but ive got a 98 r33 gtst pretty clean. i was thinking if i were to sell it and spend say an extra $20,000-30,000 to buy a good condition R33 gtr would i really be getting anything amazingly extra? Apart from sick internet cred thats guaranteed. Not talking collector car nonsense. For an owner driver, would my experiance be any different on the usual sunday cruise.

 I would be driving pretty much the same thing and looking at essentially the same dash/interior but it just costs 4x+ the price.?  Im not sure ive been thinking a bit about it latley. And maybe is there better options out there for the money. I know a mint gtr with 900hp is sick but that's nots cheap either i heard. I dont know but i reckon they're both good cars.

 

And that 4x the price comes with the same rattles and other annoying issues that come with a car of its age.

Edited November 28, 2018 by dyl33

[GTofuS-T]

Exactly the cockpit is exactly the same, and considering I prefer to drive my cars than sit and stare at them, i feel like going from GTS-T >> GT-R wouldn't feel like enough of a change to justify the cost. Purely talking aesthetics here. Now, if it drove and handled considerably better, then maybe, but do they?

[BakemonoRicer]

Anyone who would like to come for a drive is welcome to ride shotgun in my R33 GTR. They are a completely different animal compared to a GTS-T, seriously. They really shouldn't even be compared.

 

 

[Robocop2310]

1 hour ago, BakemonoRicer said:

Anyone who would like to come for a drive is welcome to ride shotgun in my R33 GTR. They are a completely different animal compared to a GTS-T, seriously. They really shouldn't even be compared.

 

 

Totally agree. 

The difference between a GTS-T & GTR for all models is massive. 

[Ben C34]

1 hour ago, BakemonoRicer said:

Anyone who would like to come for a drive is welcome to ride shotgun in my R33 GTR. They are a completely different animal compared to a GTS-T, seriously. They really shouldn't even be compared.

 

 

What if I get a stiffy, or is that to be expected and why you want to take someone for a drive?

[Robocop2310]

3 minutes ago, Ben C34 said:

What if I get a stiffy, or is that to be expected and why you want to take someone for a drive?

I’ve always had a hunch you has something special hidden “under the hood”.

[Ben C34]

12 minutes ago, Robocop2310 said:

I’ve always had a hunch you has something special hidden “under the hood”.

Oh, don't you have a dick?

[r32-25t]

Sorry but the interior of a gtst vs a gtr of the same model really aren’t that different, it’s like some who daily’s a shit box CE lancer is never going to buy an Evo 4,5 or 6 as a toy 

[Robocop2310]

36 minutes ago, Ben C34 said:

Oh, don't you have a dick?

Yep. Your point is?

[SeanR32GtSt]

On 11/26/2018 at 7:32 PM, Steve85 said:

I don't want to speak for all Americans, but a few of the people I have spoken to have been workshop owners. They believe that the R33 is going to be more popular in the US than the 32.

Their justification was that the R32s are breaking into the US market and importers/part shops/workshops popping up to support them, then the R33 will follow, cheaper and newer, following an already known path into the US. It removes a bit of the risks that some clients feel exist and they still get a GTR or Skyline of their choice.

We have the 25 year law and as of August of this year we have been getting the 33 gtst here. No gtr for the 33 yet. I got my 32 a year ago and I’ve just now started to notice the us dot com shops have started to add the Skyline to their inventory parts search which is making it a lot more convenient. 

[dyl33]

12 hours ago, BakemonoRicer said:

Anyone who would like to come for a drive is welcome to ride shotgun in my R33 GTR. They are a completely different animal compared to a GTS-T, seriously. They really shouldn't even be compared.

 

 

They're hardly animals stock.. i think a lot of people have driven both. Given that their both set up properly and similar power i doubt the differance is massive on the fun scale. Ewang scale is different.  

 

11 hours ago, Robocop2310 said:

Totally agree. 

The difference between a GTS-T & GTR for all models is massive. 

Can you elaborate on the massive differances from your personal experience?

 

10 hours ago, r32-25t said:

Sorry but the interior of a gtst vs a gtr of the same model really aren’t that different, it’s like some who daily’s a shit box CE lancer is never going to buy an Evo 4,5 or 6 as a toy 

Ce lancers dont make choo choo sounds. You could easily be able to have as much fun in a gtst as a gtr... maybe more being rwd. You cant do that in a fwd ce lancer.

 

 

Edited November 28, 2018 by dyl33

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

R33s are today's Commodore VN, the GT-R variants are like a Commdore VN SS - however with the recent pricing bubble, the GT-R variant is now seen as a super car.

I hate my R33 GTS-t shit box, but I never bought it to be a weekender, it was always destined to be a track car.

[Steve85]

R33s are today's Commodore VN, the GT-R variants are like a Commdore VN SS - however with the recent pricing bubble, the GT-R variant is now seen as a super car.
I hate my R33 GTS-t shit box, but I never bought it to be a weekender, it was always destined to be a track car.

Ouch....

So far we've covered asthetics. Which no one can agree on... ever. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
We've also covered performance, which, depending on the driver, conditions, modifications and ease of accessability will always be different.
And then there's the argument for fun factor. Again completely subjective. Some people like straight lines, some corners other hard parking events. Fun is different to everyone.

Soooo I'm starting to think it might be that people like to argue and presenting half baked ideas as fact might be reinforcing that R33 owners are jerks.
Maybe if people weren't so black and white we could all agree that they're all cool cars, and are far more interesting than my Nans Corolla.

Also the only thing I'll add about VNs is I've never desired a VN before. I don't want it added to Forza or Gran Turismo... for some reason. [emoji848]

[Meathead]

Complete dog's bollicks

[Robocop2310]

6 hours ago, dyl33 said:

They're hardly animals stock.. i think a lot of people have driven both. Given that their both set up properly and similar power i doubt the differance is massive on the fun scale. Ewang scale is different.  

 

Can you elaborate on the massive differances from your personal experience?

 

Ce lancers dont make choo choo sounds. You could easily be able to have as much fun in a gtst as a gtr... maybe more being rwd. You cant do that in a fwd ce lancer.

 

 

Some main differences between a R33 GTST Vs GTR.

- RWD vs AWD

- Single vs Twin Turbos

- Independent steering on GTRS

- RB25 vs RB26 (won't go into power ratios as everyone knows the main differences)

- Widebody flared aggressive GTR vs skinny/bloated GTST looks

- GTR has been racing seats, nicer trims and steering wheel but overall besides some gauges agreed that the rest are similar 

Of course if you throw a lot of money at a GTST or any car for that matter than it's going to be wickedly fast.

 

[Robocop2310]

3 hours ago, Steve85 said:

Ouch....

So far we've covered asthetics. Which no one can agree on... ever. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
We've also covered performance, which, depending on the driver, conditions, modifications and ease of accessability will always be different.
And then there's the argument for fun factor. Again completely subjective. Some people like straight lines, some corners other hard parking events. Fun is different to everyone.

Soooo I'm starting to think it might be that people like to argue and presenting half baked ideas as fact might be reinforcing that R33 owners are jerks.
Maybe if people weren't so black and white we could all agree that they're all cool cars, and are far more interesting than my Nans Corolla.

Also the only thing I'll add about VNs is I've never desired a VN before. I don't want it added to Forza or Gran Turismo... for some reason.
 

VN and SS CommoWhores would be a great addition to Forza Sport, GT and other racing games, what are you talking about? LOL

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

Er? GTS-t and GT-R both have that rubbish HICAS that everyone throws into the bin.

stock twins are terrible, laggy

[FedBpy2018]

18 hours ago, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

Er? GTS-t and GT-R both have that rubbish HICAS that everyone throws into the bin.

stock twins are terrible, laggy

I didnt, i keept mine on so not "everyone" removes it, and twins may look cool, its been proven that 1 turbo can out performes a twin turbo set up, more isnt always better

[GTSBoy]

Everyone who actually tries to drive the car above 9/10ths removes HICAS, because its design intention is to make the car feel "sporty" at 7/10ths, but when you push to the limit it starts to fight the driver for control.  1990's computers/codes not up to the task.  Do not want.

[FedBpy2018]

I disagree, last night took mine out to a dead back road, launched from 3k revs very little tyre spin and it launched hard without an issue, redlined it through all the gears and drove quite freely and smoother around turns then my other car by far at high speed

Edited November 30, 2018 by FedBpy2018