Sorry Guys, Went With A Gt2

[Max_ST-R]

NZM.031, by your own deifinition a Porsche 911 Turbo would not be a supercar either?. It too is quite practical, userfriendly, reliable, safe to drive, quiet, well built and incredibly fast. ..(.& I guess the reason that a GT-R is seen so much as a threat as it closely follows the Porsche formula) .

As for the 911 Porsche, I think It looks fantastic, sure, but a 458 Italia or Gallardo is WAY wider, lower and more exotic by comparison. Personally I lump the GT-R as a supercar (along with the 911 Turbo & Corvette ZR-1). GT-R still looks very radical and most importantly is built and engineered like a proper supercar. I guess you could argue is whether it is a true exotic. A Pagani Zonda for example is way more exotic than a GT-R for sure and if that's your yardstick, the GT-R can't be considered exotic, but for me a GT-R is more 'exotic' than say any BMW or Mercedes (except SLS) or Porsche Boxster/Cayman and most cars available on the Australian new car market.

[NZM.031]

thats a good point... a porsche 911 turbo doesnt strike me as a supercar, no... but a gt2 or gt3 does.. gt3 being unbearable and impractical on all accounts.

on the other hand, the porsche 911 was a supercar in its early release, and has not changed for many many years... its stuck with a winning combo and just got better and better each time..

the point there being that this GTR to the purists is not a real gtr... a great car yes... but without the screaming straight 6 that its had from the kpgc10 and it doesnt have the boxy coupe type shape that the skyline has always had... its more a souped up 350z derived from the 240z/280z/300z platform...

to add a little bit more to that... the 300zx was never a race car... it was a sports car.. a midlife crisis car for the man with a tweed beret and driving gloves... never a race car... that was the gtr's role.. it was born out of a need to beat porsches.

[N1GTR]

gt3 being unbearable and impractical on all accounts.

Thats news to me.

Without trying to be rude, i'm going to assume you havnt driven one by that comment.

I've been fortunate enough to put a significant amount of k's on one, and nothing about it except the front lip (no worse than my GTR) was unbearable or impractical on any account.

The clutch isnt heavy, the AC works well, has power accessories, more than enough space to put things (i carried a huge painting around in the back of it for a few days), fuel consumption isnt bad, ride height was fine on all roads i went on, very easy in stop start traffic, doesnt get unwanted attention from police, can be parked in shopping centre car park spaces without worries etc.....

The GT3 is an amazing car. The only thing I think it needs is a louder exhaust and a bit more power, which i'm sure GT2 owners have plenty of.

My best mate has the current model Boxster S, he ordered it new as soon as they were released. The GT3 is easier to live with than his Boxster.

Once I finish the GTR and the ultima, a series one 997 GT3 will be next in this garage

.....I do agree with your point about the old GTR's screaming straight six though

[NZM.031]

sorry steve... i meant the gt3 RS...with the semi stripped interior and lack of alot of comforts.

[N1GTR]

Fair enough, thats a different story

[NickR33]

BUT THERE IS NO PORKER LIKE AN OLD PORKER LOL

Widow maker!!!!!

was at the bottle O at the end of my street the other night, me and the guy were chatting about cars when we hear someone hammer past totally WOT... we just looked at each other and said 'GT2', no mistaking that sound!

funny there are a few guys around my area in Weltmeister tuned Porkas, they love to fang round the back streets and nobody bats an eyelid... but when I open it up and shoot the odd flame ball I get death stares and head shakes... but I wouldn't have it any other way

[Granthem]

Great cars. I prefer the tail lights on the silver porka to that of the GT2. I think I prefer the older models abit more then the new one, but thats just me (visually)

Awesome to see you modding them too. Keep us posted!

[Kujotk]

sorry steve... i meant the gt3 RS...with the semi stripped interior and lack of alot of comforts.

RS is a shocking road car, but really its not meant to be much of a road car (no matter what the brochure says).

Now everyone just wait untill the replacement for the Enzo comes out, the F70, once again we miss out on any of the good cars all because britan decided to have cars driving on the left....

[Martin Donnon]

Yep you are 100% correct. OEM system works great. Most of the GT2 guys are not going aftermarket.

MGS, so you arent just the guy the internet built get out there and give it some laps....

Dont do stuff to the car just because some dumbass on a forum told you, actually drive it, track it, and have fun......or not

Lots of folks come onto other car forums with different cars, and show them up, and its fine, but the base reason they did it in the first place is they dont like competition with cars of their own kind. No track days, no drags, no dyno figures.....just Fluff

Dont have a shed like that and be a wannabee

Edited February 4, 2010 by Martin Donnon

[MGS996TT]

MGS, so you arent just the guy the internet built get out there and give it some laps....

Dont do stuff to the car just because some dumbass on a forum told you, actually drive it, track it, and have fun......or not

Lots of folks come onto other car forums with different cars, and show them up, and its fine, but the base reason they did it in the first place is they dont like competition with cars of their own kind. No track days, no drags, no dyno figures.....just Fluff

Dont have a shed like that and be a wannabee

I mod my car’s because I enjoy the process. I regularly visit my main tuner in Seattle because again I enjoy the interaction. Who said you need to track a modified car to enjoy it.

I am surprised by ignorant comments, particular given your business background. You have absolutely no idea of my automotive background.

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I mod my car’s because I enjoy the process. I regularly visit my main tuner in Seattle because again I enjoy the interaction. Who said you need to track a modified car to enjoy it.

I am surprised by ignorant comments, particular given your business background. You have absolutely no idea of my automotive background.

I am surprised you're still posting with all the shit that's being said on here.

You have very beautiful cars. You've obviously made some good decisions in life and worked hard to be able to afford such nice things.

Well done.

[Kujotk]

MGS, so you arent just the guy the internet built get out there and give it some laps....

Dont do stuff to the car just because some dumbass on a forum told you, actually drive it, track it, and have fun......or not

Lots of folks come onto other car forums with different cars, and show them up, and its fine, but the base reason they did it in the first place is they dont like competition with cars of their own kind. No track days, no drags, no dyno figures.....just Fluff

Dont have a shed like that and be a wannabee

thats a pretty stupid thing to say, i'd be surprised if more than 10% of people who buy cars over $300 000k mod them to track them. Ive modded my skyline pretty decent, ive only taken it to a couple of texikhanas and the odd cruise with the club. Just because its modded doesn't mean I have to race it, at the end of the day racing just kills the car and all your left with are a couple of pics and times on paper, but if thats what you want from the car then you'll get a different experience than someone else. Really that may be your idea of having a great day, but for MGS it looks like he is pretty interested in his cars, how they work, trying to make an awesome car into something perfect. The idea of building things yourself or learning about how things are done is another way how people can have fun with a car. Just because he has an expensive car, that could whip around the nurburg faster than most other cars, doesn't mean he has to prove it. There are more to cars than racing, and i do not think you should cut MGS down because he has an awesome car and he doesn't do what YOU want him to do with it, if you want him to track his car then go buy your own and see how you treat it when its your own hard cash Martin, mind you the GT2 probably costs as much as your 30 year mortgage.

And the way I see it is MGS is not a wannabee, if anything there would be allot of people who would want to be him, not the other way around.

MGS I thank you for showing us the insides of alot of car enthusiasts dreams, thank you for spending the time showing us how the gt2 works and giving the rest of us a rare opportunity to see the workings that make the car so amazing. Don't stop adding to this thread because one bad apple thought he would be smart to you.

Congratulations on the cars mate, and your house doesn't look to shabby either

[tacker]

ohhh yer the GT2 is a super car alright simply bullet proof, and are uber fast!

My old porker is no match for these uber fast cars, but more than a handful for your new GT3RS, mind you i do have some aftermarket running gear on mine. I have driven the track prepared 996 GT2 and its truely a real buzz, but it can put the fear of god in you as this was or still is a brutal weapon. totally different to the big single turbo where there is lag but the GT2 torque is almost back bruising, and as a rosd car it has to be utterly fantastic.

Hats off to you on improving the the GT2 and enjoy, but i have to say the only other car i have seen faster than the GT2 we raced against last year is a Calloway GT3 Z06 Corvette and the Porsche GT3 Cup S and a certain GTSR viper. And these are fully prepared race cars against a factory road car, there is not much in it either

You have a mighty fine car (s) on your hands and its firmly on my list one day!

[NZM.031]

MGS, so you arent just the guy the internet built get out there and give it some laps....

Dont do stuff to the car just because some dumbass on a forum told you, actually drive it, track it, and have fun......or not

Lots of folks come onto other car forums with different cars, and show them up, and its fine, but the base reason they did it in the first place is they dont like competition with cars of their own kind. No track days, no drags, no dyno figures.....just Fluff

Dont have a shed like that and be a wannabee

wow... i did not expect that from you.. you just dropped a few notches in my book..

he can have whatever shed he wants, and be whatever he wants.. i know a few people that up until a few weeks ago i had absolutly no idea of the kind of cars they had in their sheds... its his money and his choice... i havent seen him show anyone up yet, i dont think hes even put out a challenge... nor have i seen him say that he does not wish to compare himself with other porsches.

porsche or no porsche he has been welcomed to the forum, thread a little off topic in parts but generally, noone has done any finger pointing towards him for owning a porsche..

if you are so insecure about your car that you need to get a drag time or thrash it at a track day or a power figure, then you are only doing it for bragging rights.. you can show me a dyno run that says your car makes a gazillion hp... then im going to jump in my little 150kw gtst and drive off into the sunset.. you are going to go home with your gazillion hp, and be no better off or happier than i am.

the only thing ive seen with dyno runs, drag times, and track times is dissapointment and a need to go better and be faster, or make more power.. and for what?? to be better than a set number in their head?? to be better then the guy next to them?? whats wrong with just being content and having fun with your car... regardless of its numbers.

mgs is clearly very happy with his car, and enjoys fiddling with it.. he doesnt need to compare it to anything or prove it to anyone... and thats the real winner.

[Birds]

Dont do stuff to the car just because some dumbass on a forum told you, actually drive it, track it, and have fun......or not

LOL that's the most ironic thing I've ever read in my life.

As said keep the updates coming MGS, don't let the sub-topics deter you as they are a normal part of any lengthy R35 discussion thread. And this is the R35 section, so anyone complaining about R35 to GT2 comparisons should probably read the title of the sub forum

[Kujotk]

wow... i did not expect that from you.. you just dropped a few notches in my book..

Hey we have all had our good and bad points, you begin to get a vibe of how a certain poster thinks through reading his posts, from the posts I have seen Martin post about me (even though he doesn't know me in person), I can't say I am very surprised by his last stroke of genius.

He dropped plenty of notches along time ago in my book when he first started bagging me out for buying a car I was passionate about, (and i'm not the only one who thinks this way about him) it doesn't matter what the masses think is right about buying a car and its intended purpose, its about what the owner thinks of the car and what HE and he alone expects from it.

We are all adults, and we can all make our own valid choices, and for another person to be telling others what to do with their money, assest and free time is a very narrow minded way of thinking. If you want people to listen to you, first you have to gain trust and respect before you will have any valid say.

I hope you were drunk or angry at something when you wrote your last post....

[BoyWhoCriedWolf]

If had the spare coin to buy a GT2 I would, i certainly wouldnt apologise for it.

[Martin Donnon]

If had the spare coin to buy a GT2 I would, i certainly wouldnt apologise for it.

But would you have to post it on a Skyline forum to validate it?

Remember our R35 was the car that blew the 997 GT2 away in the track comparo in Wheels 2008 when it was dead stock by well over a second a lap. I like Porkers we had a modified 996TT it was a nice thing, but not R35 fast

Edited February 5, 2010 by Martin Donnon

[Munro]

Ha Ha. Shutdown hard. Track the car & post up a time or keep it in the garage.

Whats the point if it is not taken to the limit?

The standard GT2 is built to thrash to the limit & not break. If you are going to modifiy it

& really enjoy the improvements then eventually it may find its way out on to a track.

Fair comment from a hard core tuner. I think everyone might have overlooked the time

that comment was posted. It is also a fair comment from a thursday night drinker &

if my memory serves me correctly last night was a particularly nice night for a few drinks

in the beer garden. lighten up guys. If I started posting up about my GTRs on the porsche

forum I might cop a bit from some of the hard liners as well so take it with a pinch of salt.

We all know the GT2 is a dream car & so is the R35 GTR. I would love to own both.

[Munro]

and a V10 R8 Audi........... but that is a topic for another thread.