Best Ways To Extract Power From N/a V35 Legally?

[VNS 24]

Hi all, just looking at getting the most power out from my V35....as close as possible to being legal.

the only mod i have atm is Volk Gtc. i thinking of more mods in coming summer, either on body or engine.

any help would be greatly appreciated. if there's another thread similer, pls tell me as well.

thz.

[WESTWD]

you best option would be to use the 'search' function...

you'll find a lot of info there

There is also a section of the fourm dedicated to the V35

Cheers

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

Hi all, just looking at getting the most power out from my V35....as close as possible to being legal.

the only mod i have atm is Volk Gtc. i thinking of more mods in coming summer, either on body or engine.

any help would be greatly appreciated. if there's another thread similer, pls tell me as well.

thz.

A full exhaust system + extractors (exhaust manifold) would be a start...

High flow panel filter in your air box can help...

Lower the ride height for better stability, so fully adjustable coil over suspension.

You got a budget?

You just want bolt on mods and keep it looking stock?

[mad082]

as above, exhaust and air filter are going to be the 2 things to start with. follow that up with an ecu and tune

since you are wanting more power then leave the suspension alone for now. depending on what sort of use you are using it for as well will determine what sort of suspension setup you would want to go anyway. if you were wanting to take it to the drags then coilovers won't help you at all as they are generally too stiff and you will get better times with the stock suspension. if you were wanting to go to the track then coilovers would be suitable.

[scathing]

Hi all, just looking at getting the most power out from my V35....as close as possible to being legal.

If your only 2 concerns are power and legality then APS' twin turbo kit is completely ADR compliant, and if you get it tuned properly you should pass emissions too.

The kit makes around 280rwkW on a tune I can't be sure is 100% emissions legal (but has the OEM cats in place), but you should still be on the high side of 250rwkW even if its pulled back.

Short of boring and stroking the engine (which is big bucks), there's no way you're going to get anywhere near that while staying NA and 100% road legal.

[VNS 24]

If your only 2 concerns are power and legality then APS' twin turbo kit is completely ADR compliant, and if you get it tuned properly you should pass emissions too.

The kit makes around 280rwkW on a tune I can't be sure is 100% emissions legal (but has the OEM cats in place), but you should still be on the high side of 250rwkW even if its pulled back.

Short of boring and stroking the engine (which is big bucks), there's no way you're going to get anywhere near that while staying NA and 100% road legal.

thanks for the info man. that be really tasty mod...but don't think my mrs will approve as i buying a house soon.

i will have about $10-12k to spend...just think if i should spend it on engine or body.

any idea??

[VNS 24]

A full exhaust system + extractors (exhaust manifold) would be a start...

High flow panel filter in your air box can help...

Lower the ride height for better stability, so fully adjustable coil over suspension.

You got a budget?

You just want bolt on mods and keep it looking stock?

great info..that could be the way to start off.

could you recommend good exhaust system? i would prefer quiet and daily-driven.

thz.

[scathing]

i will have about $10-12k to spend...just think if i should spend it on engine or body.

Spending it on the body isn't going to get you more power. Either way, there'll be practically zero ROI so it boils down to personal preference..

$10K will be more than enough for bolt-on NA powertrain mods Using very rough figures, you'd be able to get a full exhaust, intake, ECU and cams.

If you're able to self-install, you could probably source a HKS Supercharger kit and an exhaust within your $12K budget, and make noticably more power and torque. The problem is that you won't have much left over.

If you're talking aesthetic mods, one of my favourite V35s at the moment is this one from Team Shyne in the US.

http://www.stanceworks.com/?p=515

Really simple bodykit, and stanced. $10K would pay for a fat set of wheels and tyres, coilovers, and the kit fitted and painted, but at most you'll only have enough left for a catback exhaust. That height and those wheels won't be remotely legal, though.

[mad082]

thanks for the info man. that be really tasty mod...but don't think my mrs will approve as i buying a house soon.

i will have about $10-12k to spend...just think if i should spend it on engine or body.

any idea??

well do you want it to go faster? if yes then don't touch the body as that won't make it go any faster. if anything it will make it go slower because you are adding weight.

[noone]

That height and those wheels won't be remotely legal, though.

But Damn it looks sweet as..!!!!!!

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

great info..that could be the way to start off.

could you recommend good exhaust system? i would prefer quiet and daily-driven.

thz.

Yes a quiet exhaust but with the flow would be best.

I am guessing any Japanese brand would be good.

Ask scathing as he has a V35, he could suggest what's best.

[scathing]

Ask scathing as he has a V35, he could suggest what's best.

I actually own a 350Z, but since they platform share most of the mechanical components are common.

could you recommend good exhaust system? i would prefer quiet and daily-driven.

In my opinion, there are only 2 options if you plan on staying NA.

Fujitsubo Legalis-R if you can afford a Japanese exhaust.

HiTech if you can't.

The former is probably my favourite exhaust for the FM platform cars. Up until around 3000RPM the car sounds no different to stock, which means around town you won't feel a difference. Once you climb it past that rev range, the car picks up slightly more volume but the note takes on a much more aggressive tone. It also has no drone, which suits the "grand tourer" nature of the car. The only other exhaust I know of for the V35 that can match the civility of the Legalis-R is Nismo's, and that will cost you a fair amount more.

The exhaust looks almost stock (this is what my it looks like on my mate's old 350Z, the only difference between the exhausts for the Z and the V is that the V needs an extension pipe because the car is longer) so cops won't notice it either. You can even bolt on the diffuser that is attached to the OEM exhaust onto the Legalis-R.

The HiTech is made by a mob in Sydney, and I had one on my Z for a while. Like the Fujitsubo it sounds almost stock at low RPM and only picks up a more metallic note above 3500RPM. The note is different to the Legalis-R, and after hearing them both I prefer the Fujitsubo's, but its still good.

However, between 1900-2200RPM it does get a slight drone. Its nowhere near as bad as the drone in a cannon exhaust, but given how refined the rest of the car is the noise will stand out. The other problem is that this rev band is what the car will do at 60km/hr in 6th gear. You arguably shouldn't be lugging the motor at that RPM at that speed, but since the engine's so torquey it doesn't feel like it struggles. After a while, I stopped noticing the drone (I assume it didn't go away).

The tips on the HiTech look stock, but the muffler barrel is noticably smaller. It means the OEM diffuser I mentioned earlier doesn't fit it. With the car's height you'd have to bend down to actually look, and it still looks "plain" enough that it'd take someone who knew the car to realise that its not stock, but if you want a 100% OEM replica (for maximum stealth) it's not perfect.

The build quality isn't as good as the Fuji's either. The metal discolours a lot faster, the welds aren't as neat, and one of my mates noticed that one tip stuck out more than the other on theirs. Mine didn't have that issue though.

Lastly, the HiTech's Y pipe doesn't match the OEM shape. With every JDM exhaust, it matches up to the factory Y pipe. The HiTech requires its own. That's not a problem initially since the HiTech gets sold with its Y pipe whereas with the JDM exhausts its nearly always sold separately (so factor that in when you're comparing prices), but it means if you break the HiTech Y pipe (like I did) you either need to get a new one from them or replace the entire exhaust.

With the Fuji, you can get any Y pipe from almost any other manufacturer. If you break it, you can always pop a stock one back on temporarily.

However, it is significantly cheaper (comparing new to new).

If you do the NA powertrain bolt-ons, the car should run mid to high 13's depending on the tyres and how good you are at launching. You'll be just shy of 200rwkW, depending on what dyno you're testing on.

My 350Z has all the NA bolt-ons I listed earlier (minus cams) and it does a G-Tech measured 13.9 on not-quite-legal RT215s with stiff Tein Flex coilovers. I'm sure if it was being driven by someone who doesn't suck at launching the car, and on a grippy drag strip start line rather than the...erm....private road I tested it on, the car would have gone faster that night.

With fresh tyres that have had their pressures lowered, regular suspension, and Step 1 cams your slightly heavier V35 should still be quicker again.

A highish 13 isn't bad, but its not fantastic by modern standards. And because the power delivery is so linear, it won't feel quick.

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

^^ Ah yeah you do to.

Z33, Haha!! That's a good write up.

I was gonna suggest a HKS or Kakimoto, but Fujitsubo and Nismo sound more familiar towards the 350Z and V35.

Cool.

[VNS 24]

I actually own a 350Z, but since they platform share most of the mechanical components are common.

In my opinion, there are only 2 options if you plan on staying NA.

Fujitsubo Legalis-R if you can afford a Japanese exhaust.

HiTech if you can't.

The former is probably my favourite exhaust for the FM platform cars. Up until around 3000RPM the car sounds no different to stock, which means around town you won't feel a difference. Once you climb it past that rev range, the car picks up slightly more volume but the note takes on a much more aggressive tone. It also has no drone, which suits the "grand tourer" nature of the car. The only other exhaust I know of for the V35 that can match the civility of the Legalis-R is Nismo's, and that will cost you a fair amount more.

The exhaust looks almost stock (this is what my it looks like on my mate's old 350Z, the only difference between the exhausts for the Z and the V is that the V needs an extension pipe because the car is longer) so cops won't notice it either. You can even bolt on the diffuser that is attached to the OEM exhaust onto the Legalis-R.

The HiTech is made by a mob in Sydney, and I had one on my Z for a while. Like the Fujitsubo it sounds almost stock at low RPM and only picks up a more metallic note above 3500RPM. The note is different to the Legalis-R, and after hearing them both I prefer the Fujitsubo's, but its still good.

However, between 1900-2200RPM it does get a slight drone. Its nowhere near as bad as the drone in a cannon exhaust, but given how refined the rest of the car is the noise will stand out. The other problem is that this rev band is what the car will do at 60km/hr in 6th gear. You arguably shouldn't be lugging the motor at that RPM at that speed, but since the engine's so torquey it doesn't feel like it struggles. After a while, I stopped noticing the drone (I assume it didn't go away).

The tips on the HiTech look stock, but the muffler barrel is noticably smaller. It means the OEM diffuser I mentioned earlier doesn't fit it. With the car's height you'd have to bend down to actually look, and it still looks "plain" enough that it'd take someone who knew the car to realise that its not stock, but if you want a 100% OEM replica (for maximum stealth) it's not perfect.

The build quality isn't as good as the Fuji's either. The metal discolours a lot faster, the welds aren't as neat, and one of my mates noticed that one tip stuck out more than the other on theirs. Mine didn't have that issue though.

Lastly, the HiTech's Y pipe doesn't match the OEM shape. With every JDM exhaust, it matches up to the factory Y pipe. The HiTech requires its own. That's not a problem initially since the HiTech gets sold with its Y pipe whereas with the JDM exhausts its nearly always sold separately (so factor that in when you're comparing prices), but it means if you break the HiTech Y pipe (like I did) you either need to get a new one from them or replace the entire exhaust.

With the Fuji, you can get any Y pipe from almost any other manufacturer. If you break it, you can always pop a stock one back on temporarily.

However, it is significantly cheaper (comparing new to new).

If you do the NA powertrain bolt-ons, the car should run mid to high 13's depending on the tyres and how good you are at launching. You'll be just shy of 200rwkW, depending on what dyno you're testing on.

My 350Z has all the NA bolt-ons I listed earlier (minus cams) and it does a G-Tech measured 13.9 on not-quite-legal RT215s with stiff Tein Flex coilovers. I'm sure if it was being driven by someone who doesn't suck at launching the car, and on a grippy drag strip start line rather than the...erm....private road I tested it on, the car would have gone faster that night.

With fresh tyres that have had their pressures lowered, regular suspension, and Step 1 cams your slightly heavier V35 should still be quicker again.

A highish 13 isn't bad, but its not fantastic by modern standards. And because the power delivery is so linear, it won't feel quick.

cheers for the replay mate.

1 more question if you don't mind. if i were to go with all the mods you listed, which 1 would i have to get permit for or can't get 1 for it in perth? it's just that i am a really busy guy and can't normally take day off to get yellow sticker off if i get 1.

thz again.

[scathing]

1 more question if you don't mind. if i were to go with all the mods you listed, which 1 would i have to get permit for or can't get 1 for it in perth? it's just that i am a really busy guy and can't normally take day off to get yellow sticker off if i get 1.

As far as I know the Fujitsubo is noise legal.

The noise stats are available on their web site.

http://www.fujitsubo.co.jp/prods/detail/00...003661/00000964

And, when you get up the rev range, its only 2dB louder. If I remember correctly from APS' open day back a few years ago, their TT kit is only 2dB louder at the testing point and so it was still noise legal.

You'll have to check with your own regulatory body to find out if that's OK, but to the ear its not that loud where a cop would consider pulling out the testing equipment unless they really wanted to f**k you over.

The HiTech doesn't sound that loud either, if you just do the catback. Unfortunately I have no noise data on it.

On either exhaust, if you're not wide open throttle in the upper half of your rev range when you blow past a cop neither exhaust is going to attract attention. If you are, chances are they'll try and bust you for street racing/speeding anyway.

[VNS 24]

As far as I know the Fujitsubo is noise legal.

The noise stats are available on their web site.

http://www.fujitsubo.co.jp/prods/detail/00...003661/00000964

And, when you get up the rev range, its only 2dB louder. If I remember correctly from APS' open day back a few years ago, their TT kit is only 2dB louder at the testing point and so it was still noise legal.

You'll have to check with your own regulatory body to find out if that's OK, but to the ear its not that loud where a cop would consider pulling out the testing equipment unless they really wanted to f**k you over.

The HiTech doesn't sound that loud either, if you just do the catback. Unfortunately I have no noise data on it.

On either exhaust, if you're not wide open throttle in the upper half of your rev range when you blow past a cop neither exhaust is going to attract attention. If you are, chances are they'll try and bust you for street racing/speeding anyway.

sounds like fujitsubo is a great choice...i will look into it wit noise level thing.

thz mate.

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

Fujitsubo's are great, not that much louder then stock and gives you better flow.

+ it is lighter in weight so your car will have more power, at the same time pushing less weight = Faster.