How Many Kws @ Wheels Will I Make On Stock Set Up

[manuel]

I have a R33 1994 model with 110,00klms

Mods

3inch exhaust from back of turbo

greddy profec spec 2 boost controler

standard airbox with K&N

Bosch 040 fuel pump

running 100 octane everyday( i have it available at some local servos)

Standard turbo running 12 to 13 psi max

Trust side mount aftermarket intercooler( 240wide, 195 high, 100mm thick core) I want to keep the car looking original but making decent power.

HOW MUCH CAN THIS SMIC FLOW?

I have Power fc

z32 air flow meter

sard 850cc injectors

sard fuel pressure reg

i am planning on putting this gear on car when i get it tuned at Unigroup( yavuz is the man for powerc fc tune so thats where it is going)

Can anyone tell me what i should expect out of this set up ...kw at wheels

Im planning on putting full slicks on the skyline after tune and taking it to eastern creek to chase high 12s

Edited December 18, 2009 by manuel

[_Ryan_]

Read this? http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Pr...T-Da-t9445.html

Maybe 180rwkw Trust sidemounts are meant to be decent, the 34SMIC is meant to be fine for 220rwkw. and cheaper

IMO, don't fit the fuel press reg, will look stock.

Are you aware the K&N is an oiled element filter? AFM's don't like this. I personally would change it before fitting the Z32.

[R31Nismoid]

Same as everyone else mate... (re: dyno results thread)

190-200rwkw legitimately.

I was running 12.9's with 220rwkw. So if you'll be able to get a mid 12 on slicks, if not even lower depending on how you drive.

[manuel]

Read this? http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Pr...T-Da-t9445.html

Maybe 180rwkw Trust sidemounts are meant to be decent, the 34SMIC is meant to be fine for 220rwkw. and cheaper

IMO, don't fit the fuel press reg, will look stock.

Are you aware the K&N is an oiled element filter? AFM's don't like this. I personally would change it before fitting the Z32.

thanks for the advice mate.

im lucky i got the trust side mount for $100 bucks, very lucky i guess so hopefully will be good upgrade.

Your right about K&N, Shift performance have stainless steel high flow dry panel filters for $60, i will change it soon

If i can make between 200 and 220kw @ wheels with standard turbo i will be very pleased. I will keep you guys posted early next year when its tuned.

As for quarter mile i have run high 11s in my sr20 ke20 corolla with slicks. Only had 180kw at wheels with car weight of 950kg.

Good tires+good suspension+experience=Drag racing . power figures mean shit unless you get it all down to the tarmac and produce the times. time slip tells the story, not dyno figures.

[JonnoHR31]

you wont make an accurate 220rwkw with a stock turbo. 180-200 tops

[frx026]

I am not sure on your trust smic but i can tell ya with my ARC R34 smic and some other mods on a stock turbo R33 I make a 211rwkw @ 10psi. Dyno was done at Creatd in Melbourne on BP 98 pump fuel. Car has run 13.3 @ 109mph at heathcote test n tune with current setup on street tyres but it is more set up for circuit/hill climb use.

Other mods - 3 inch bell mouth front/dump - apexi hi flo cat - hks silent hi power cat back - hks spark plugs - hdi dual ebc - apexi safcII - hks panel filter - custom intake pipe - 040 fuel pump - orc clutch + light flywheel.

I like the idea of stealth so everything i did is hidden - black piping in the engine bay - concealed ebc and safcII in cabin. I got a mate who is a TMU cop to have a look over it and he had trouble finding anything I had done.

[PM-R33]

If you make over 200rwkw you'll be lucky. Also, why on earth would you get 850cc injectors when the stock ones will do the job for a lot more than what you will be pushing??

Edited December 18, 2009 by PM-R33

[R31Nismoid]

And the fuel reg etc etc... lots of useless parts in that list.

850cc will flow 400rwkw+, why then you'd need a fuel reg on TOP to get even more flow, beyond me.

Even the Z32 is a waste of time.

[PM-R33]

Yeah good point, i missed the fuel regulator thing.

[manuel]

looks like 200 to 220kw is achievable, thanks guys.

Also reason i have sard 850cc injectors and fuel reg is cause i got them so cheap . like i said the standard turbo will be history some time next year and then its Garrett time baby. The injectors will support my goal of achieving around 280kw. If i dont need the fuel reg at this point then im happy to sell it to some one that needs it more than me.

Z32 air flow will provide a much better tune, refined rather than power , i know this....

Anyway thanks for the feedback boys, this site is a source of knowledge, a good reliable resource.

[Tarek]

And the fuel reg etc etc... lots of useless parts in that list.

850cc will flow 400rwkw+, why then you'd need a fuel reg on TOP to get even more flow, beyond me.

Even the Z32 is a waste of time.

Hey (R31 Nismoid) f**kwit...this has nothing to do with this post...but thought i would share what im about to say with everyone since you closed my topic for no f**king reason! guess what asshole i dont need to use SAU anymore...iv noticed its only cheap flamin mongrels that use this site only another version of ebay! i reported some1 and the least you could say was not to worry about it and i would have been happy! but u decided to be some hard flamin mongrel and f**k it up for me! f**k u and ur shitbox R31...shove it up ur mums ass u f**king top bloke! lol seems like ur power hungry going around to peoples topics and closing them for no f**ked up reason! just coz ur a stupid low life administrator...who gives a shit...and u cant do jack shit about what im saying!

flamin mongrel...

[KiwiRS4T]

I had a trust smic in my Stagea but destroyed it when i wrote the car off and found a nismo one for my next stagea. the smic should support up to 230awkw (I made that with a GCG highflow) and the arc version (the 100mm thick one) will probably support about 240awkw although may need a water spray on high boost if you are in a hot climate. 280kw is acheivable with 550 injectors so stock fpr should be fine.

looks like 200 to 220kw is achievable, thanks guys.

Also reason i have sard 850cc injectors and fuel reg is cause i got them so cheap . like i said the standard turbo will be history some time next year and then its Garrett time baby. The injectors will support my goal of achieving around 280kw. If i dont need the fuel reg at this point then im happy to sell it to some one that needs it more than me.

Z32 air flow will provide a much better tune, refined rather than power , i know this....

Anyway thanks for the feedback boys, this site is a source of knowledge, a good reliable resource.

[R31Nismoid]

Hey (R31 Nismoid) f**kwit...this has nothing to do with this post...but thought i would share what im about to say with everyone since you closed my topic for no f**king reason! guess what asshole i dont need to use SAU anymore...iv noticed its only cheap flamin mongrels that use this site only another version of ebay! i reported some1 and the least you could say was not to worry about it and i would have been happy! but u decided to be some hard flamin mongrel and f**k it up for me! f**k u and ur shitbox R31...shove it up ur mums ass u f**king top bloke! lol seems like ur power hungry going around to peoples topics and closing them for no f**ked up reason! just coz ur a stupid low life administrator...who gives a shit...and u cant do jack shit about what im saying!

flamin mongrel...

Good.

Piss off - you're banned.

[paulr33]

yeah try 240rwkw on the street after repeated runs

im sure the core will be efficient

[R31Nismoid]

looks like 200 to 220kw is achievable, thanks guys.

Also reason i have sard 850cc injectors and fuel reg is cause i got them so cheap . like i said the standard turbo will be history some time next year and then its Garrett time baby. The injectors will support my goal of achieving around 280kw. If i dont need the fuel reg at this point then im happy to sell it to some one that needs it more than me.

Z32 air flow will provide a much better tune, refined rather than power , i know this....

Anyway thanks for the feedback boys, this site is a source of knowledge, a good reliable resource.

Mate dont put the parts in now. You do not need to do so!

- Z32 does not offer a more refined tune. It is actually less refined due to the AFM resolution.

- Larger injectors, harder to tune/fuel economy issues possible

- Fuel reg, just simply not required (i'd sell it, factory is tried and proven over 350rwkw )

Honestly leave ALL the parts factory and put them on when you upgrade the turbo. You'll have to get a retune anyhow so fit them at that time.

I've had similar parts sitting in my bedroom for 2 years, simply because i don't need them. No point putting wear and tear on items for no reason.

It's great you are prepared parts wise, but there is no benefit to putting anything in now with the factory turbo.

[manuel]

Mate dont put the parts in now. You do not need to do so!

- Z32 does not offer a more refined tune. It is actually less refined due to the AFM resolution.

- Larger injectors, harder to tune/fuel economy issues possible

- Fuel reg, just simply not required (i'd sell it, factory is tried and proven over 350rwkw )

Honestly leave ALL the parts factory and put them on when you upgrade the turbo. You'll have to get a retune anyhow so fit them at that time.

I've had similar parts sitting in my bedroom for 2 years, simply because i don't need them. No point putting wear and tear on items for no reason.

It's great you are prepared parts wise, but there is no benefit to putting anything in now with the factory turbo.

Why do people upgrade to the z32 air flow meter?

Should i sell my fuel pressure reg?

Should i down size my injectors to 550cc for better fuel economy and tune capabilities?

Value your opinion.

[Super Drager]

Why do people upgrade to the z32 air flow meter?

Should i sell my fuel pressure reg?

Should i down size my injectors to 550cc for better fuel economy and tune capabilities?

Value your opinion.

The standard AFM can only detect a certain amount of airflow, and upgrade to the Z32 when pushing 250+rwkw(i think)

Don't put bigger injectors in till you upgrade your turbo, the standard items are good for about 240rwkw+

[PM-R33]

Keep the stock injectors, keep the stock AFM and keep the stock Fuel pressure regualtor.

Sell the regulator and keep the AFM and injectors for when you need them.

[PM-R33]

Hey (R31 Nismoid) f**kwit...this has nothing to do with this post...but thought i would share what im about to say with everyone since you closed my topic for no f**king reason! guess what asshole i dont need to use SAU anymore...iv noticed its only cheap flamin mongrels that use this site only another version of ebay! i reported some1 and the least you could say was not to worry about it and i would have been happy! but u decided to be some hard flamin mongrel and f**k it up for me! f**k u and ur shitbox R31...shove it up ur mums ass u f**king top bloke! lol seems like ur power hungry going around to peoples topics and closing them for no f**ked up reason! just coz ur a stupid low life administrator...who gives a shit...and u cant do jack shit about what im saying!

flamin mongrel...

You didn't follow rules for creating a for sale topic, it got locked, harden the f**k up and get over it instead of having a fit and making yourself look like an idiot.

"Cheap flaming mongrels use this site"....umm yeah, we are all cheap, hence most of us spend stupid amounts of money on cars and there is probably some of the most expensive modified cars in Australia on this site....good logic.

The admin and moderators do one of the best jobs of any car site i have visited and this is probably one of the best sites for information and keeping f**kwits out, funny how most of us don't have problems...

Edited December 19, 2009 by PM-R33

[turbolag166]

id put you in at around the 210 to 220 kw with those mods you listed, and a good tune of course