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id luv the new Navara STX alot more $$$ but with a big load behind them almost feels un noticable. i also agree with a few posts above, turbo diesels. luv that torque

Yeah but i believe thats not a tray ute...

And also i overheard a guy at toyota trading his not old stx for the hilux cause it wasnt powerful enough

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I've just recently got a Ford Ranger turbo diesel. While i wouldn't say it's top of the range, it is a great value for money ute.

The ride isn't as refined as perhaps a hilux (I wouldn't know for sure cos I haven't driven one) but that may also be because I opted for the hi rider model as I wanted the ground clearance.

As for reliability you cant beat Toyota build quality, particularly the Hilux. Diesels too are very longlasting hardwearing engines because of their more robust design. The advantage in drivability in a turbo diesel is huge, pulls easily from 1500 rpm with plenty of torque, not so much power for landspeed records, but the ability to move easily no matter what you're carrying.

I've just recently got a Ford Ranger turbo diesel. While i wouldn't say it's top of the range, it is a great value for money ute.

The ride isn't as refined as perhaps a hilux (I wouldn't know for sure cos I haven't driven one) but that may also be because I opted for the hi rider model as I wanted the ground clearance.

As for reliability you cant beat Toyota build quality, particularly the Hilux. Diesels too are very longlasting hardwearing engines because of their more robust design. The advantage in drivability in a turbo diesel is huge, pulls easily from 1500 rpm with plenty of torque, not so much power for landspeed records, but the ability to move easily no matter what you're carrying.

you do know the ford ranger is just a mazda BT-50 clone with electric windows, both are great workhorses

Yes I do, exactly the same under the skin.

Both made in Thailand for the Australian market actually

Haha just found out my accord was made in Thailand too...Anything else...with all the tourism included im surprised they are not taking over the world

the way i see it is;

those guerrilla forces in the jungle use hiluxes to get their troops around, hiluxes are everywhere in the middle east and have to deal with dust and sand storms constantly - as well as constant heat, in thailand they all use hiluxes to transport trannys and top gear tested the shit out of one and it still didnt die.

whats the moral of the story kids???

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