Who's Winding Back The Odometers?

[autoworx]

have seen new basically new non import cars where the numbers don't line up

always go by the condition of the car

have a customer evo here with 40k on the clock , clearly the car has done double that

was purchased at auction with 40k on it

and this is not an import thing , the bunky yard dealers around here do it for the local stock . A guy comes around with a briefcase and does it on the yard.

[deanoss]

Anyone used ...http://odometer-check.com/

Looks like a worthwhile service.

[GTR-N1]

Anyone used ...http://odometer-check.com/

Looks like a worthwhile service.

It looks as if it's dedicated to Japanese cars too; that the E-Check can trace back to the previous car registration odo reading and not just as the car arrives for auction. Any comments from the more learned?

[GT-R32]

Looks like it requires details that are hard to find for second/third/fourth Australian owners?

[xALmoN]

So, i got curious and pulled out the bunch of papers that came with the car, i can't read japanese, the kanji hanging around didn't help matters, knowing a few words out of a few hundred words just made me more confused.

Then I found 3 sheets of paper, apparently there's some bi annually check the car owners in japan have to do, and i found the most recent one and it has 13,543kms on it, with a weird date that i do not recognise.

I've attached a picture of the date + kms reading. Now, can anybody tell me how does Year 19, Month 10, Day 30 relate to the date system used by the rest of the world?

[Iron Chef]

30 October 2007, that was the mileage I take it you paid pretty decent money for it

[xALmoN]

30 October 2007, that was the mileage I take it you paid pretty decent money for it

so the months and days are the same, how does year 19 translate to 2007? Is it the reign of some emperor?

Well for an N/A supra, it was actually pretty cheap. Compared to the others i saw on carsales, so i just got it.

[Iron Chef]

Yeah 19 is the 19th year of the current Emperor.

[xALmoN]

Thought so, i learn something new almost every week!

But do they use 2009 2010 2011 and stuff like that in nihon?

[Iron Chef]

They'll use the western calendar for our benefit, but they always use theirs when the reader is local.

[studricho]

I'm in the game of restoring CBR 250RR and I find the same thing with these bikes. Most (if not all imports) have been wound back

I don't get involved in this sort of act as a moral stance although it' so easy to do. With the bikes there are so many tell tale signs that indicate how many klms are on it.

There are marks for example on bolts that have been tighten from factory and this helps me identify the legitimate ones from the bad ones.

What sort of things can you look for in cars for example that would be a true indication of klms even after the dealers magic shiny spray stuff?

For example, would worn lettering on wiper stalks or worn pedal rubbers give you a rough idea on klms?

[KrazyKong]

I'm in the game of restoring CBR 250RR and I find the same thing with these bikes. Most (if not all imports) have been wound back

I don't get involved in this sort of act as a moral stance although it' so easy to do. With the bikes there are so many tell tale signs that indicate how many klms are on it.

There are marks for example on bolts that have been tighten from factory and this helps me identify the legitimate ones from the bad ones.

What sort of things can you look for in cars for example that would be a true indication of klms even after the dealers magic shiny spray stuff?

For example, would worn lettering on wiper stalks or worn pedal rubbers give you a rough idea on klms?

Brake pedals & seat wear are one area you can look for. As far as warn wiper stalks, the lettering on mine is fading/smearing due to the paint not being very long lasting. So in my case it's not an indication of kms, rather just a defect in the materials of the car. So you have to try and decide if things are wear & tear from high mileage or from sloppy materials used.

[studricho]

I was working on a bike today in my workshop and I was having a good look at the dash for signs of it being tampered. All the screws at the back looked like they have never been touched until I noticed a bracket to hold the wiring in the wrong spot.

I gave the dash a clean and you can see a smudge mark on the inside of the glass.

I wonder how that got there?

[JamieR34GTT]

That's Japanese for you. There always doing sneaky tricks to try hide things up.

[Iron Chef]

Actually, I think you'll find a lot more tampering happens at the Australian end than the Japanese end...

[GT-R32]

Actually, I think you'll find a lot more tampering happens at the Australian end than the Japanese end...

Agree. All the tampering I have found out about has been done in Australia.

And I've bought a genuine low kms car from a Japanese dealer once, too.

[Mr Eps]

i hear those bloody japs eat human flesh and conquer other countries with a ruthless regeime and get up to all SORTS of mischief.

seriously bro why the racism?

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i guess now you can PM that guy for those GTR seats you wanted in the bris classifieds ;-)

[woodstar]

I'm worried. My 04 only had 30k. But it was like new, and you could eat dinner off the engine. Sometimes they may be genuine

[V37GT]

you are good man as i bought my R33 1 years ago from dealer the car showing 56kms but I found a piece of paper in the car saying the car already done over 120kms in 2006 when the car still in japan

[GT-R32]

I found an ad from the previous owner of my car, trying to sell it in 2005 from Japan (can't find it again now, I saved it on my computer). He had noted it had ~112,000kms on it, IIRC. Then when it was complied - by someone he knew in ACT - paperwork says it was shown has having something like 73,000kms (off the top of my head). Now shows 113,000kms so I think I have to add around 39,000kms to that LOL.