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but still, even if you can get away with it, you are making the car less powerful than the NA version by quite a bit. as someone posted in a thread a while back, their mate did it then put the car on the dyno and made something like 65kw. performance wise that's like getting a lancer and driving round with 200kg in the boot.

  bozodos said:
LOL if you're beating GTS-T's they either aren't trying or are being driven by people who can't drive to save their lives lol.

I love it when N/A owners think they have some sort of weapon, fact is it's slower than a VN!

GTFO ..lol alrite if a vn come in a turbo version your pretty much sayin a turbo vn would beat a gtst ...... since a NA VN.. would beat a NA skyline .. i use 2 drive a vs commodore b4 i got my na skyline and no way the VS was faster it felt like a boat that was about to sink...

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  mad082 said:
but still, even if you can get away with it, you are making the car less powerful than the NA version by quite a bit. as someone posted in a thread a while back, their mate did it then put the car on the dyno and made something like 65kw. performance wise that's like getting a lancer and driving round with 200kg in the boot.

Yes, that's my mate that put his GTS25 minus T on the dyno. Needed to rev its guts off to even take off without stalling, no point in having a "cool skyline" when an excel leaves you almost 2 cars behind.

  timr32gts said:
GTFO ..lol alrite if a vn come in a turbo version your pretty much sayin a turbo vn would beat a gtst ...... since a NA VN.. would beat a NA skyline .. i use 2 drive a vs commodore b4 i got my na skyline and no way the VS was faster it felt like a boat that was about to sink...

problem is that how fast a car feels and how fast it is actually going is 2 different things. my turbo 33 felt slower than my 180sx although it was a touch quicker. my v6 magna felt quicker than my 33, even though it was slower.

also most people are comparing a manual skyline to an auto commodore. of course the auto commodore is going to be a touch slower. just look at the difference in diff ratios. that alone tells a massive story.

as for turbo vn versus gts-t, i reakon the turbo vn would have it over the gts-t if you are talking stock for stock. if you are talking modified then you have to compare 2 cars with the same mods and i think the vn would still win.

I think we've come to the conclusion that taking the turbo out of an r33 simply isn't worth it.

As per the first few posts in this thread, I would take their advise, sell you current r33 and buy a N/A car.

  mad082 said:
any 650 you can ride is going to be a dirt bike not a road bike. and while they do get up and go, they aren't uber fast (like a road bike) and you won't gain that much by unrestricting them.

 that about right except all of these road 650's

BMW F650, F650CS ect

DUCATI   SL 600 PANTAH

HONDA CB650, XL650

HYOSUNG  GT650R

MOTO GUZZI   V65

ect ect

Meh, buy a 250 for a year like im doing and then sell it since they hold their value due to the LAMS laws and then buy a proper 600 road bike: R6, ZX6R, Daytona, GSXR etc.

I should have my R6 some time this year :P Fantastic bikes.

Anyway back to the topic..

FKNLOL at everyone saying that NA fail-boats are faster than gts-t's and falcodoors, my Mild EA falcon 5 speed ran 14.82 and my VR luxo berlina with nothing but a shit cat back ran 15.3....

I mean FFS my toyota Cressida would be on par or quicker than an auto r33 gts

...Next up these guys will be saying they beat a GT3 RSR around the 'ring in their Auto NA rb20e r33's

they aren't all straight road bikes. most are touring/enduro bikes, etc designed for both on road and offroad. basically softcore versions of dakar bikes. a good analogy would be if you compare a landrover discover, or some other bare bones offroad 4wd and a lexus, that is what those 650 bikes are like compared to a proper dirt bike. they are more suited to the road but can occasionally get their tyres dirty

I think this thread is starting to wander from its original topic. It has been said many times before, YOU CANNOT PULL A TURBO OF A GTST AND EXPECT IT TO BE ANY GOOD. done said and dusted.

Goodnight and thread closed

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