R33 Gtr

[MRSAMO]

If I list the retail prices of all the GTRs then you'll probably wonder why most cars won't sell at their asking prices today.

[UNR33L]

How much were they all new? i thought they were a fair bit

[aussieBaller]

LOL, totally agree.

In fact I was thinking about the average prices for all the GTRs:

R32 GTS - $6k - $8k

R32 GTR - $13k - $18k

R33 GTS - $10k -$15k

R33 GTR - $21k - $27k

R34 GTT - $16k - $22k

R34 GTR - $33k - $39k

Cars would be cheaper if

- they are the first year models

- they had rebuilds

- had accidents

- they have a lot of mileage

- no record books (japanese)

Really really rough guide as I've no idea about GTSes (so open for correction!).

Skylines unfortunately don't retain their values like Ferraris, if they did their original owners would buy their own cars back.

They don't.

Show Me a r34 GTR FOR $33K. I'll buy it right now.

[Takahashi GTR]

$33,000 for an R34 GTR = DREAMER

[scotty014]

r34 gtr's are roughly those prices in japan from what ive seen on a couple websites. v specs and higher models are more though of course.

[GTR-N1]

It has been a buyers' market for the past 2 months, as it is traditionally at this time of year ie Dec/Jan.

If the Reserve bank lifts interest rates > bank interest goes up > affordability of buying a house drops > people shift across to buying cars > sellers' market + the fact that sellers traditionally do better over the next few months + dealers make a motza in May/June.

A car F/S also needs to be in demand. Try selling a R33 GT-R compared to a manual SAAB in the same price range right now.

And if there are several others competing, make your car more desirable than the next.

[Brandon]

Now I wonder if anyone would want to buy my N1... hahaha.

[MRSAMO]

Like I said these were all rough prices.

For those who wonder why these prices might seem unrealistic to them, consider the following factors :

- Its a Japanese car, no car appreciates unless they're 60 years old collectors' items and in grade 5 condition (which is almost impossible unless restoration work has been done), even that I'm not sure if I would buy a 5-7 million yen vintage GTR which would probably be....$150k here in Australia

- After 10-20 years parts need replacing, wear and tear occurs, no car appreciates under deteriorating conditions that happens naturally

- Its a Japanese sports car, things wear down even faster

- Sellers add stuff to their cars, but what if buyers don't want them?

- GTRs are Japanese twin turbo sports cars, things wear down even faster

- A used car is quite simply that, used, twice, three times sometimes four times

That said, these factors don't actually bother me that much, its the next point :

- It seems that Skylines change hands every 2 years

That is abnormal and terrible for an enthusiast car many view as one of Japan's greatest sports car never to be fully appreciated by the rest of the world. It is atrocious that some people view these cars as some kind of joy ride.

There are some very good examples out there, such as the R32 GTR that was restored/resprayed inside out in QLD (custom silver colour?). Unfortunately you can't measure effort, they've values cherished only by owners themselves. If people do any kinds of work like that its for love, not for money.

Also, having read the for sales section regularly I noticed drops in prices for every cars on sale, every single one of them. It sounds tough but that's how it is, even more so in Japan and UK. Like most have said you need to be realistic in a buyer's market, because in a buyer's market people can get R34 GTRs for $37k++ ($33k is a bit low but I was converting from existing Japanese prices).

[JAGR33]

rocklee - we are in Australia not Japan, so your estimate of R34GTR's going for 33k is way off the mark (regardless of what the cost over there).

A 99 model non vspec with say 80k kms will average 40k. A pristine 02 vspec 2 nur can fetch up to 90k.

How many R34GTR's have you seen for sale with an asking price of 33k? Show me and I might consider buying one.

We're talking complied and registered here, not some cut and shut race only version you'll find on McIntyre Rd in Sunshine....

[MRSAMO]

Like I said Jack I converted from Japanese prices. There are some that are 2++ million yen for the basic 1999 models. Hell I would also get one for $33k too, but it would be a personally imported one that I owned in Japan not the ones from a junk car yard

[JAGR33]

Like I said Jack I converted from Japanese prices. There are some that are 2++ million yen for the basic 1999 models. Hell I would also get one for $33k too, but it would be a personally imported one that I owned in Japan not the ones from a junk car yard

So in the real world once you add shipping charges, GST, import duties, compliance/tyres and rego that figure would blow out to 40k.....

[Aaron34]

not sure about not recouping mod costs either. my view is, if you don't want to pay the price, you don't get the car. then you'll find out the hard way how much it costs to add mods and do it in a way which makes the car better, not worse. JAG33 knows as well as I do. Its costs plenty but when they are done right, nothing can come close to the experience of driving one. there is no getting around the fact that you only get what you pay for...

[R31Nismoid]

Sadly though Aaron - no-one will fork out 75k+ even for a well modded GTR.

Plenty have tried, and i don't think many have succeeded unfortunately.

So in the nature of recouping "some" expense, parting out is the normal option.

You might sell the car in 1-3 years, but over that time the value has dropped due to the market value going down overall.

So in the real world once you add shipping charges, GST, import duties, compliance/tyres and rego that figure would blow out to 40k.....

Pretty much

You won't see a R34 GTR here landed & complied for less than 40,000.

Your normal R34 GTR, average km's (65,000), you can get landed complied for around 45-50k.

Price goes up from there.

That is realistic - not a dreamer figure based on assumptions that do not exist.

[Ziller]

Unless your committed in keeping your car from the start there's not point buying and spending bucks on one of these baby's or you will be left disappointed, after all the hard work in getting it right there's no way I'm going to let some Joe beat me down in price only to watch it drive down the road for the last time, I just let my 200sx go after 12 years due to a lack of space, I was sorry to see her go.

Let the tyre kickers find out for them self's.