Passive Radar/Lidar protection

[BuzLightyear]

I live in Qld. A friend of mine and his wife had identical bikes and were booked by a cop using radar. It didn't even get to court; they only had to write a letter to the police department and the matter was waived.

[Guest INASNT]

a guy in victoria was booked by a mobile speed camera reversing out of his driveway, which they recon he was reversing at 65km/h!!! Dont believe the accuracy of any radar gun

[RedX]

Can i add to mr 4door the human eye can only see a small amount of the spectrum to which IR(infrared) and UV(Ultraviolet) belong whilst i must agree that radar works on bouncing a high freq pulse of sound. i must correct the knob jockey on the LIDAR cos if you wear night vision goggles you can see the beams from miles away.

My best idea to not get caught is if youre gonna do it do it when there is nobody to hit except for trees and car magnets aka power poles. Cos in suburbia little kidz do run infront of you even at 230am(I`m still finding turd under the drivers seat NEVER AGAIN!!!!)

[Villainous_J]

Cos in suburbia little kidz do run infront of you even at 230am(I`m still finding turd under the drivers seat NEVER AGAIN!!!!)

My thoughts exactly, save it for the freeways and highways when nobody's around. Enjoy your car, don't ruin it.

[GTRman1992]

Same, never speed it Suburbia. Killing a little kid is not what anyone wants to live with. Drive hard, but drive smart.

[GTR R35]

I could not AGREE more with your comments about areas that shold not speed through such as schools and residential areas. Unfortunatly there is not enough traffic speeding in quite residential areas so the cops do not setup their revenue devices where they can make more money setting up on a 3 lane road through an industrial site with a 50k limit and claim they are being a deterrant because it is dangerous....yeah right

Speed is not dangerous, lack of driving skill to match the conditions is the problem.

The OZ road toll is not really high compared to most civilised countries, but the lack of attention our government plays in educating drivers is pathetic.

Cars are being made safer, they can handle, brake and drive yet we do not teach our young and existing car license holders how to drive properly. We just book them and take their money and licenses away from them.

We should work on the 20% rule for all over 60k and above zones. leave the school and 50k residential a fixed speed, but a 70 zone, you could drive 84, 100 = 120 but it would depend on the conditions. This would move traffic and stop people being glued to their speedp's and get them watching the road....this may help their driving.

Ta

[croat]

So u guys think i should go to court? Only problem or thing i have against that is that i have a good behaviour driving bond given to me by a magistrate so i think he may double my fine and my record aint too good... Besides i was speeding over the Bondi Junction bypass so no pedistrians around.

""This would move traffic and stop people being glued to their speedp's and get them watching the road....this may help their driving.""

I could not agree with you more!!!

[RedX]

BAD BAD if you are susposed to be on good behavior me thinks you should pay the fine and keep it hush one of my mates was on good behavior and got busted drink driving (bloody tool) now they want to throw him in the slammer for a month. admittedly its a very differen`t case but the judge cut loose hopefully his appeal will do a bit better!

P.S. The part bout speeding in suburbia was not aimed at anyone in particular.

I like the notion that in the areas around fixed speed cameras the accident rate has actually increased another mate was involved in a pile up near one when someknobjockey slammed on the anchors cause he shat himself.........How does that grab ya

[GTRman1992]

Yes, you may be in trouble if already in trouble. Tough call.

[Villainous_J]

Just to throw another question into the debate here, and this is open to everybody, old, new and not-yet drivers. What do you think of stricter license testing for owners and drivers of performance vehicles? Like advanced driving and manouvering courses that are assessable to obtaining a licence to drive such vehicles. I know it'd be a legislative nightmare getting the whole thing sorted out and what power the cut-off applies to and all, but I've been thinking about the idea for a while now, and I think we can all agree that somebody shouldn't own a performance vehicle, skyline, rx-7 or whatnot, without the skills to drive them at their best, and drive them safely while doing so. I know I might be painting with a broad brush saying that everybody speeds, but even then, people without fast cars speed, I'm guilty of that.

[T0nyGTSt]

Training does work despite what the research shows.

You rarely see any instance where additional training is not beneficial. Yet you see research that shows that advanced driver training may cause higher accident rates (overconfidence etc.)

Yet training for motorcycles has been great for lowering accident rates!

How come it's not the same for cars?

I think because motorcyclists are a minority and the accident rates for this group was very high.

It is not feasible economically and practically train or retrain the entire driving community.

And the benefits aren't so apparent as slapping in more cameras.

You can see that the increase in mobile cameras over the break.

How many were in real accident areas? All I saw were cameras on dead straight three lane roads where maximum revenue could be attained.

T.

[JimX]

Tony, the reason why the statistics show that people who have done advanced driver training are more likely to have accidents is simply because it's not compulsory. ie, The people doing the training voluntarily are the ones who generally speaking want to push the envelope.

As you've already said, motorcycle rider training has reduced motorcycle accidents because it's compulsory. If driver training were also compulsory then there is absolutely no doubt that the accident rate would drop. There is the problem of getting the much larger amount of car drivers into advanced learning courses, but it's working in places like Germany so why not here? It's gotta start somewhere.

[croat]

Many people here done an advanced driving course??? I was about to do one but ended up pulling away from the idea. Hopefully near future.

[T0nyGTSt]

SAU have sponsored a course with Aaron McGill.

It was a three day course over a few months and it was several hundred dollars.

I think it's a good idea but I think it'll be hard for SAU. Undoubtedly everyone here thinks they're a kickass driver so it'll be a balance between making sure it's not too preachy but hopefully it's not a skidpan day type pissfarting around session.

T.

[Messiah]

uurrrmmm wrong button.... my replies here.

Crash course in Detection physics

Hope it helps

[GTRman1992]

I agree with JimX, those doing the training are the ones who want to drive harder, and are out testing new skills on the road. Unfortunately it takes time to learn new skills and on the public road a mistake usually means a crash.

The race track is a better place to play around and stick with what you know on the raod.

[Svhans]

People, tilting your number plates wont do squat....

You have headlights, they are designed so that light, like that "invisable light" from the lidar, gets reflected from all different angles straight out the front of the car.

Works for radar waves also.

Any passive technique wont work either, by the time you've been notified and hit the anchors you've been speed locked gaurenteed.

Any active method is highly illegal and the tickets are way more cash than even a few speeding tickets.

Moral of the story, DONT SPEED unless its on a track.

[MRR34]

Good job on digging up a 5 year old thread.