R33 to R34 part swap

[dojobi]

Hi guys,

I'm thinking about buying an R34 25GT-X Turbo (4 door) in the next few months, but before I do, I have a few questions to ask that may make me reconsider it.

First up, I'm planning on swapping over my dump/front combo pipe (and possibly the catback bit too) and the HKS Type S FMIC kit from my R33 and I'm not sure if they'll be a straight swap. This will also be from an R33 coupe to an R34 4 door. Anyone know if this is possible? It should just line up as it's the same engine from what I can tell, but I just thought I'd check.

Also, I'll be selling the SAFC with my car, so will most likely buy a Power FC. I realise the computer itself is model specific so I'll buy that new, but I'm not too sure on the boost controller for it. Do I need to get an R34 25GT Turbo model (if so, I'll buy it new to avoid problems) or can I just get any old 2nd hand one off the for sale forum?

Finally, do I need to buy the hand controller for the Power FC? I will never look at it once the car is tuned, so I feel like I'd be wasting my money getting it when I don't want it. Do most tuners keep spare hand controllers to tune with? I really want to keep the stock look and feel of the car, and having controllers in the cabin annoy me. That's why I'm getting rid of the Super AFC.

Bonus questions for Japanese speakers :

As an alternative to the GT-X, I'm still considering an optioned up R34 25GT Turbo so I've been using Babelfish on Nissan's site to work out the differences. On this site, http://history.nissan.co.jp/SKYLINE/R34/98...EC/frame4d.html (or http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/u...EC/frame4d.html translated) about 6 lines down into the table there is something about "automatic light/write system" - does anyone know what this is?

The second bit I couldn't work out was 7th last line in the interior equipment section. It says the "Driver's seat バニティミラー" and "Suicide seat バニティミラー". Babelfish doesn't seem to know what it is.

Those are the only bits that seemed to differ between the models (apart from the Xenon lights and the stereo), so I thought I better find out if they are good things to have so I can make up my mind on which model to buy.

Thanks a lot,

Michael

[Parag0n]

Suicide Seat = Passangers Seat, Serious.

[dojobi]

Suicide Seat = Passangers Seat, Serious.

hehe yeah, I kind of guessed that, it was the "バニティミラー/???????" (depending on what browser you use) after it that babelfish couldn't do, and I was interested in. Don't know if I like the name suicide seat though

[Guest RedLineGTR]

1. The R33 Exhaust will not fit the r34, it would need to be taken to a exhuast shop to get the hangers remade up since the r34 had them in different spots. The cat in r34 is more down the exhaust so it will be a problem. Time for a new exhuast for the r34.

2. The Intercooler should fit the r34 some mounting bolts etc might be in different places, thier shouldnt be much trouble in fitting it abit of mucking around to make sure everything is bolted nicely.

3. The power fc needs to be specific for the r34 Turbo as long as its the Rb25DET NEO u can find some on the forums but they are abit rare u can get some japan second hand from some companys. With boost controllers u can use any with the power fc u can use the optional power fc one so u can intergrate it into the hand controller if u want one to show boost etc. But other than that u can use any aftermarket ones hks, greddy etc.

4. The the hand controllers most decent dyno tuners that sell preformance parts have them and usally it is possible to use it. But if not the case i'm sure someone of the forums or around your area would have one and would be able to lend it for a day or two. Their are some nice features that he hand controller displays that might be usefull but thats up to you.

Hope it helps abit. Cheers Rob

[dojobi]

1. The R33 Exhaust will not fit the r34, it would need to be taken to a exhuast shop to get the hangers remade up since the r34 had them in different spots. The cat in r34 is more down the exhaust so it will be a problem. Time for a new exhuast for the r34.

2. The Intercooler should fit the r34 some mounting bolts etc might be in different places, thier shouldnt be much trouble in fitting it abit of mucking around to make sure everything is bolted nicely.

3. The power fc needs to be specific for the r34 Turbo as long as its the Rb25DET NEO u can find some on the forums but they are abit rare u can get some japan second hand from some companys. With boost controllers u can use any with the power fc u can use the optional power fc one so u can intergrate it into the hand controller if u want one to show boost etc. But other than that u can use any aftermarket ones hks, greddy etc.

4. The the hand controllers most decent dyno tuners that sell preformance parts have them and usally it is possible to use it. But if not the case i'm sure someone of the forums or around your area would have one and would be able to lend it for a day or two. Their are some nice features that he hand controller displays that might be usefull but thats up to you.

Hope it helps abit. Cheers Rob

Thanks Rob,

That's kind of annoying about the exhaust. The dump/front pipe I have is an HPC coated single piece with a separate wastegate line that I had custom made. Looks like it's time to sell it .

I guess I wasn't too clear on what I meant about the Power FC and boost controller. I really want to use the boost control kit option for the Power FC as I don't want any hand controllers or little blue screens in my car. I'm sure the controller shows lots of nice info, but I've got enough crap in my car now and it annoys the hell out of me.

So is the boost control kit for the Power FC a generic part, or do I have to order an R34 version of the Power FC's boost control kit to go with the R34 Power FC?

Cheers,

Michael

[Guest RedLineGTR]

It is a generic part as far as i have read about. Unless someone knows otherwise. Since the boost controller just plugs into the power fc. The powerfc unit is the only thing that needs to be r34 specific because of the ecu obviously.

Also with the exhaust i;m sure if u have a decent exhuast place around they can make up an exhuast system to go with the dump/front pipe but you would have to talk to them about it & someone that knows r34

[Ronin 09]

Sorry to hijack the thread, michael, but have you looked at prices much for 34 4 doors? what sort of ball park?

Cheers

[Demon Dave]

バニティミラー = vanity mirror

[Demon Dave]

Oh, and forgot to add: オートライトシステム= auto light system - the light switch has an additional setting: OFF/AUTO/LOW/MAIN

It just means the lights will turn on automaticallly when it gets dark...

[Rezz]

バニティミラー = vanity mirror

Beat me to it again Dave! That 2 weeks vacation you've got must be doing wonders...

[Demon Dave]

LOL

I'm finding I've now got too much free time on my hands

[Muz]

These are not quite generic so be sure to order for your model.

Apexi Part # GTT R34 RB25DET

Power FC 414-N008

Hand Controller 415-N001

Boost Control Kit 415-A013

Cheers

Muz

[dojobi]

Sorry to hijack the thread, michael, but have you looked at prices much for 34 4 doors? what sort of ball park?

Cheers

Don't worry about the hijack - I do it all the time . I'm looking at spending around $25000, and I've seen 1999 R34 25GT Turbos with 4 doors and auto transmission for around the $22000 mark. I'm looking for a manual, so the price will be slightly higher. Hopefully they are available for $25K-26K as nobody wants the 4 doors for some reason. I'm just happy that I'll get 2 more doors and a cheaper price. I'm going to write an email to a few of the importers (like J-Spec and Geoff Risbey) to see what they think.

Cheers,

Michael

[dojobi]

These are not quite generic so be sure to order for your model.

Apexi Part # GTT R34 RB25DET  

Power FC 414-N008  

Hand Controller 415-N001  

Boost Control Kit 415-A013  

Cheers

Muz

Thanks Muz and Redline for the Power FC info.

[dojobi]

Oh, and forgot to add: オートライトシステム= auto light system - the light switch has an additional setting: OFF/AUTO/LOW/MAIN

It just means the lights will turn on automaticallly when it gets dark...

I never would have guessed the vanity mirror! I couldn't think of one thing that a passenger had that the driver didn't. Thanks for the info. The auto light system sounds pretty damn good too. That in conjunction with the 8 speaker sound is probably enough for me to go the GT-X over the plain GT.

Thanks,

Michael

[Demon Dave]

I don't have the auto light system on my car, but a courtesy car I drove for a week did. I found that they were OK, but they tended to turn you lights on when you didn't really need them. e.g multi-storey car parks, short tunnels etc...

[dojobi]

Yeah, my Dad's Lexus LS400 does that. At first I thought that it would be annoying, but then I came to feel that it was a good thing as if the sensor says it's dark, then it must be dark enough that it couldn't hurt to have more light. I quite like that it will turn them on in tunnels as then I don't have to worry about doing it myself.