R18+ Games - Public Consultation

[mad082]

i dont get it, there can be R rated movies, but not R rated games? is this because parents are to lazy to prevent their kids from playing them? its easy to stop your kids from watching R rated movies, why not games?

too many parents don't know how to say NO these days, and all the family first types are just a bunch of looney fuckwits who think that rather than turn something off that they don't like they should endure it and then write an angry letter to a crappy newspaper. i'll bet that there are morons out there who would buy an R rated game for their 10 year old kid because they don't want to say no to them, and then have a big cry to the media about the content of the game once they see the kid playing it. i think the media need to grow a pair and tell these f**kwits to get a life.

just incase that rant didn't really say what side i'm on (since it was pretty all over the place), i'm in favour of an 18+ R classification on games and think that anyone with any common sense should be as well.

[.:: GimpS-R34 ::.]

Who here has clicked NO when they were under 18?

Exactly my point.. Back when dial-up was available.. My mate used a dialler to access a pron site not knowing it charged.. His oldies received a $150 fee on their bill LOL.. He was only on their 30min also..

[Birds]

I must admit to getting scared by the "click here only if you are over 18/21" when I lost my internet porn virginity. But from that moment on, it meant nothing to me. It's a shame that company wasn't Australian as you can purge the charges if it was a minor claiming to have viewed the content. It's even more illegal to charge for something illegal

Back when I was looking for internet porn as an adolescent...there were no google images...hardly any search engines...it was basically "guess a domain name".

OT: Find me someone under 18 who has not played a violent video game or seen porn. Not going to happen! Censorship = pointless, and people in favour of it just looooove to draw links between violent video games and serial killers / postal students who happen to them, not the other way around...

I love how the political analysts called it a non-issue, yet the petition numbers surpassed those of the online WorkChoices petition.

[EeLeYe]

Parents just don't understand videogames...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jri8LFci4xQ

There's more on youtube. Their reactions and things they say are pretty funny. This game is "demonic" and will make people insane.

[R31Nismoid]

^ ROFL WINNER

[Mayuri Krab]

If they got my mum in there she will just go "What is this? this shit is soo fake!"

[PM-R33]

Parents just don't understand videogames...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jri8LFci4xQ

There's more on youtube. Their reactions and things they say are pretty funny. This game is "demonic" and will make people insane.

f**king epic!

Seriously, am I the only one that wants to play Grand Theft Auto with a bit of hard core pornogrpahy in it? Eh? Eh?

[.:: GimpS-R34 ::.]

f**king epic!

Seriously, am I the only one that wants to play Grand Theft Auto with hard core pornogrpahy in it? Eh? Eh?

FYP for more accuracy

[EeLeYe]

It seems as though politicians are starting to become aware of just how STUPID it is to not have R18+ games.

The minister in Adelaide mentioned that "the rest of the world is laughing at us because we are behind in the classification system." he also mentioned that the way it is now is "unsafe for children." And so is pushing for a new reform that decides on a rating based on the MAJORITY of votes by the jurisdictions and not a unanimous one.

http://www.r18games.com.au/2011/03/government-to-introduce-r18-games-despite-opposition/

[Mayuri Krab]

It seems as though politicians are starting to become aware of just how STUPID it is to not have R18+ games.

About freaken time!

[EeLeYe]

In the latest instalment in GameSpot AU's opinion column, Laura Parker weighs in on Australian Council on Children and the Media CEO Barbara Biggins' claim that Aussie gamers have been unjustly influencing public opinion with "propaganda".

http://au.gamespot.c...cks%3Btitle%3B3

And a link from the above article leads to this old article,

http://au.gamespot.c...ws/6203703.html

[.:: GimpS-R34 ::.]

Biggins also points to the fact that we haven't had an R18+ for games in 18 years, and everyone has been fine with that--"

She says, in fact, that the lack of an R18+ rating has only become a problem because gamers can't shut up about it.

She so smart

They cry about how this will harm children. But these children already have access to MA15+ which has them acting out these violent things already.. R18+ just makes it more gore. So wouldn't the more 'fake' look make these impressionable children think that doing this shit in RL isn't so bad?

Edited March 31, 2011 by .:: GimpS-R34 ::.

[EeLeYe]

Victorian AG raises R18+ doubts

http://au.gamespot.com/news/6306912.html?tag=latestheadlines%3Btitle%3B1

Victorian Attorney-General Robert Clark says draft R18+ guidelines currently being discussed by federal, state, and territory attorneys-general could allow more violent games into Australia.

FFS

[oweban]

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/04/r18-rationality-is-dead/

[EeLeYe]

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/04/r18-rationality-is-dead/

This guy makes a very good point.

Despite the record breaking numbers, all of this debate may be for nothing. Especially seeing as the government is run by a bunch of irrational fools.

I for one, will keep pushing for an R18+ rating. As long as the numbers stay strong we still have s chance.

[EeLeYe]

A side-step from the main topic but related none the less.

http://au.gamespot.com/features/6308543/index.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=picks&tag=picks%3Btitle%3B3

A brief summary,

Context plays a very BIG part in how games create headlines and debate. Duke Nukem for example, is "sexist and violent". He treats women without respect and kills anyone who gets in his way. To a young person, who doesn't fully understand satire and irony, the actions of Duke could possibly lead him/her to believe that it is normal... To an adult, we understand that it's all basically a big "joke", so to speak; we know in reality, this isn't how normal men act in society (although I wouldn't mind it, haha).

The article doesn't mention anything about introducing the R18+ in Oz, but I think they make a VERY good point in the reasoning behind classification and why the media and closed-minded people take everything out of context.

[Mayuri Krab]

To all those brainless sheep against the idea of introducing a R18 into our game system because of the usual "save the children" crap.

All I have to say to your lot is:

"f**k YOU"

The end.

[liger]

the Australian parents wont be happy untill all games are either educational, or are designed for 5-10 year olds.

[EeLeYe]

Supporters of the R18+ classification for video games in Australia have always argued that the lack of an adult rating leads some games to be incorrectly classified into the MA15+ category. The Australian government backed this view today, releasing a comparison of recent video game classification decisions showing 11 MA15+ titles that are rated either 17+ or 18+ in other territories.

http://au.gamespot.com/news/6309272.html?tag=latestheadlines%3Btitle%3B1

This could either be good or really, really bad.

[Mayuri Krab]

This could either be good or really, really bad.

I'm thinking its going to be the latter...