R33 GTS-t as a track hack?

[Laurence]

I am up for a registered and reliable car that will be fun on the track. I like Skylines (because I can fit in one) and at $18k it is much less of a write off worry.

What needs to be done? Suspension and tyres are a start. Are the brakes ok? What about the stock intercooler. How much weight could you get out of one? Power levels would be kept lowish for reliablity.

Anyone with experience of their own car?

[dAVE]

go an r32 gts4 and drop an rb25 det in it.. you will have a greater advantage due to less weight in the r32 (the 4wd might even it out) and way better handling with the ATESSA.

[Pva_Glue]

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Originally posted by peteSmith

go an r32 gts4 and drop an rb25 det in it.. you will have a greater advantage due to less weight in the r32 (the 4wd might even it out) and way better handling with the ATESSA.

Just let you know it dont work...

but if you put RB26DETT then It'll fly!

cheers

Joe

[Morgs]

Dont mess round with junk like that....

Import a 180sx or a Silvia, throw a set of coilovers and some good tyres on it, few cheap bolt on's.. that is more than enough for a dangerous track weapon, and CHEAP

[Doctor]

If you wanted to do a engine swap on a GTS4 you would either have to get a GTR or a Stagea engine as they have the 4wd block.

Get a 32 as they are lighter, much cheaper and the RB20 is a great engine

Doc

[dAVE]

rb25det with the the R33 gts4 box. Would that work ?

[Silver-Arrowz]

Go the R32 GST-t Type M.

It's got R33 GTS-t brakes, without the extra weight.

4WD is good, but can be troublesome. If it is a track hack, then RWD is the way to go as any 4WD will understeer. Also cheaper to fix if something goes bang inside (which is very likely).

Any car with suspension and brake modification will have a very distinctive advantage over cars that have engine mods only on the track. Arrive at corners sooner but having to brake earlier and losing time through corners because you cannot balance the car and keep it on the racing line, vital time will be lost.

Tyres, as usual are also vital. Get a set of slicks and you'll be very happy.

[Laurence]

Engine swaps and things go against the whole reliablity aspect I am after.... With the R32 or S13 the oldness factor goes against it for me. Am I wrong in thinking that?

Also what is the difference with the 4WD blocks. I presume the front left driveshaft goes through the sump or something.

[Silver-Arrowz]

Your right about the old factor. But I guess either way you go, the motor will need a rebuilt sooner or later. Later is better though.

[Duncan]

I was thinking R31 coupe with RB25DET myself. Dedicated track car makes it much easier - no rego, no interior etc etc The guys at Powerplay can get hold of em cheap.

No so handy for cruises tho.

[Laurence]

I would have it as a dedicated track car, but still with rego and stuff, for convenience. I don't have a tow car or a big workshop. Also it is much cooler to turn up and whip people's arse in the car you came in...

[Morgs]

Personally i like the idea of a dedicated track track car as distinct from your daily or road car, it works out a hell of alot cheaper. Apparently somewhere sells things like R32 GTSt for $6K (was in TP), imported as race cars unable to see the road. Something like that would be great to throw minimal amounts of cash at and the financial risk of destroying the thing is minimized....

If you have a rego'd R33 its still going to cost you $18K give or take if you have a big moment at the track??

[Guest Impul 25T]

If you are looking for cheaper, get an R32GTSt typeM (with the bigger brakes) and put an RB25DET in it. Will still cost you less than a 33, plus have a lighter car.

As for removing weight in the 33, depends on how crazy you want to go. There is atleast 50kg's of tar sound deadening on the flooring, plus other stupid things like aircon, back seats, etc. Also, in between the rear seat and battery compartment, there is a really heavy metal divider plate. Replace that with some Aluminium or something and you'd save heaps of weight there also. Plus the 100,00km's of unnecessary wiring too......

[Laurence]

$18k of GTS-t is much better than $55k of GT-R, it's all relative I guess. I go to plenty of sprints and see dented $220k 911 GT3's.

At least a GT3 will take the punishment and keep coming back for more. I have discovered GT-R's aren't quite as tough on the track as they appear on the road. Even with only minor mods.

[Cubes]

I'd say go the 32 GTS-T.

If you've ever driven one you will soon realise actually how small they feel on the road.

The Rb20DET is a tough motor with a turbo fmic exhaust ebc camber kit coilovers etc.. will be hard to beat.

[Morgs]

I think what Joel is trying to say is that a R33 GTS25T has nothing on a R32 GTS-t... i agree