BASHO Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) These pumps need 13.5V to operate properly.Did he wire in a new voltage feed and relay for the new pump? The std wiring has a resistor circuit that is switched in at idle...starving the pump of voltage and starving your engine of fuel. lol at the AFM people...he says it runs fine whether cruising or boosting so why say its the afm when it appears to be metering the air nicely. Why ? I had a WRX thar ran faster than a mad centipede and had an idle like a roller coaster --new AFM --problem fixed. Surely dying at idle has a limited No of causes, just go through them one by one till it's fixed (if theres no fault code) Lets start with ; -------------------Fuel pump. -------------------Fuel regulator. -------------------Fuel filter. -------------------Dirty injectors. :others may care to copy and paste and add other things. OR(My choice) --- Take it to a workshop that knows WTF they're doing get a fauly code read and they'll nail the frikin thing in 5 minutes flat , pay them for the diagnostic and then fix it yourself or if it's to tricky get them to do it. I personaly would not be friken round with the fuel system if it wasn't an easy fix, -wrong call there and bang bang engine time. I can't understand why you're putting up with a friken spanner cowboy who seems to be learning at your expense just an IMO. Edited February 24, 2010 by BASHO Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5103360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty nm35 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 +1. Do what you can yourself, like swapping airflow meter, replacing fuel filter, bottle of injector cleaner, then go through the harder ones with a specialist. Only problem with that is, the experts are usually booked months in advance. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5103734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo Monster Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 hi there guys.. firstly, thank you so much for all of your contributions.. its really nice having a place to come and get some good advise when everybody around has run out of ideas... since the poor mechanic was starting to look a bit lost, i read some more faqs on here, listened to the advise, and spent the afternoon in his workshop.. i was going to do the whole earth wire mod, but after meatering the resistance between the pump and the body, i just didnt feel confident to screw around with it.. instead is dismantled and cleaned the afm and the aac valve..his scanner showed no faults until i cleaned the afm, at which point it said it was missing or faulty.. after checking the connections again, i gave the car a run, reset his scanner and then checked it again.. scanner showed up no faults so i've been driving it ever since... so far, fingers crossed and wood-a-knockin, the car seems to be running sweet and has no more stalling.. So again, thanks guys, and if any more probs arise, i'll re-post, but in the mean time hopefully we can call this one closed... Cheers, Damo Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5103763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
3LGODZILA Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 you should still do the fuel pump wiring mod u dont wanna starve the engine for fuel when your giving it stick. instead of just grounding the earth wire you should put a relay in and give the pump direct battery voltage. note - just remembered r32s dont have the battery in the boot like r33s do they? this is a piece of piss mod in 33s for your car u might have to run a wire from ur engine bay. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5104013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo Monster Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 you should still do the fuel pump wiring mod u dont wanna starve the engine for fuel when your giving it stick. instead of just grounding the earth wire you should put a relay in and give the pump direct battery voltage.note - just remembered r32s dont have the battery in the boot like r33s do they? this is a piece of piss mod in 33s for your car u might have to run a wire from ur engine bay. not sure if im too keen to put the pump on a relay like that, sould be a bit scared if the relay failed.. anyway, the bloody thing started stalling again today so i dont know.. i tore the afm out and pulled it apart.. i've resoldered the joints in it.. they looked a bit old, but will try the car again tomorrow to test it.. haveb been hunting around for another afm.. the closet i can find is one of a subaru.. the unit looks identical except the green sticker on it has the very last part of the code being different.. mine is a j60, and the subaru one is an r60.. too scared to try it though incase i blow something up Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5105807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty nm35 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Good to see you had a crack at fixing it yourself, If the afm is playing up, that will probably fix it. You probably found if you wiggle the plug it came good? That is the sign of a dry solder joint. Easy fix if you have a soldering iron, and saves buying a new afm. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5105839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo Monster Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 Good to see you had a crack at fixing it yourself, If the afm is playing up, that will probably fix it. You probably found if you wiggle the plug it came good? That is the sign of a dry solder joint. Easy fix if you have a soldering iron, and saves buying a new afm. cheers mate.. starting to run out of ideas if it doesnt fix it though, bad ecu anyone? yikes.. it might just be my paranoira, but im starting to think it only plays up on bloody hot days if that give anyone a clue.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5105873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekin Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Have a read of this if you havent already. http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Fu...t+12v+fuel+pump Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5105984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 could even just be a simple tps issue, its auto yeah? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5106007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo Monster Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 could even just be a simple tps issue, its auto yeah? yeah it is an auto.. whats a "tps issue" sorry? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5106033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper the Fox Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 yeah it is an auto.. whats a "tps issue" sorry? Throttle position sensor Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5106066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASHO Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 not sure if im too keen to put the pump on a relay like that, sould be a bit scared if the relay failed.. anyway, the bloody thing started stalling again today so i dont know.. i tore the afm out and pulled it apart.. i've resoldered the joints in it.. they looked a bit old, but will try the car again tomorrow to test it.. haveb been hunting around for another afm.. the closet i can find is one of a subaru.. the unit looks identical except the green sticker on it has the very last part of the code being different.. mine is a j60, and the subaru one is an r60.. too scared to try it though incase i blow something up Sometimes cleaning the AFM is only a temporary solution I know this from when I had WRX, if the car ran OK after you cleaned the AFM then went crook again could still be the AFM do you know anyone you can borrow a good one from to check it out. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5106853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 First i heard of cleaning the afm being a temporary fix, unless you were running a heavily oiled filter Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5107040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASHO Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 First i heard of cleaning the afm being a temporary fix, unless you were running a heavily oiled filter Never owned a WRX then or you would have heard plenty Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5107070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo Monster Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) Never owned a WRX then or you would have heard plenty .. well i dont have any hope of finding another skyline afm round these parts so yesterday i opened the afm and resoldered all the joints.. so far, the car seems really good so i can only hope that its sorted it.. if anything, the car seems different is a good way so far.. .. oh, and my skyline has a k&n filter in it so oil contamination was a possibility.. think the contact cleaner and resolder should be close enough to call it reconditioned .... Edited February 26, 2010 by Damo Monster Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5107257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty nm35 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 My mates wrx has the same issue, probably caused by the placement of the pod in the guard, in front of the wheel.(sucks in all sorts of crap) Good to hear you got it sorted Damo. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5107408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
payback21 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 lol at the AFM people...he says it runs fine whether cruising or boosting so why say its the afm when it appears to be metering the air nicely. Laugh all you want. I still say AFM. Its intermittent. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5107477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASHO Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 .. well i dont have any hope of finding another skyline afm round these parts so yesterday i opened the afm and resoldered all the joints.. so far, the car seems really good so i can only hope that its sorted it.. if anything, the car seems different is a good way so far.... oh, and my skyline has a k&n filter in it so oil contamination was a possibility.. think the contact cleaner and resolder should be close enough to call it reconditioned .... Congrats good to hear --IMO- flick the K&N filter if it's overoiled it'll do it again , farkit flick it anyway go Apexi dry or stock--just IMO though. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5109295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Exactly, thats why wrx's in particular have this problem, the owners seem to think more filter oil the better Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/309358-omg-month-long-fuel-pump/page/2/#findComment-5109583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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