Calling All Car-dudes And Hoons

[Basti]

you keep NS in your bookmarks!?

Yeah, i mean no.....umm do you keep NS in your face? *phew*

cos you bookmark porn

quit watchin me man

F*** ya'll! Just because there's a controversial thread doesn't mean I have to offer up my opinion! So anyway...

I'm thinking this Ian fellow has gone about this totally the wrong way. But to be honest it sounds more like a troll than a genuine enquiry - journalists can be stupid, but who is stupid enough to throw a negative label over the people you want to speak to like that? Or perhaps he's actually doing a story on SAU and wanted to find out our reactions to such a question.

In the event that it is genuine...I'm sorry that you expected to find hoons here...we have a couple who aren't too bright (every car club does) but most of us are car enthusiasts. Future tip: don't call the person you want to speak to, a hoon. You might as well have called them a no good f***ing idiot. If I were a hoon I sure wouldn't want to talk to you. And I don't want to talk to you...so does that make me a hoon? Errr

I equate this to doing a report on serial killing and asking to spend a weekend with a serial killer, asking him to show you a thing or two by killing some people and then (assuming you survived the weekend) writing an article whinging about how much murder there is nowadays (read: you really are stupid).

If you want a real article that will get read then go against the pop-media grain and write something about differentiation of car enthusiasts from car hoons. Underground infiltration has been done to death.

and now my day is complete.

[_Ryan_]

Ahh I'm not actually interested in meeting up with some random. Simply stating that anyone can be anyone on the interwebz

Neither, just gave a hypothetical solution to a real problem.

EDIT: typo'd due to tiredness.

[bozodos]

You should get your mate Andrew Bolt to write a fair and balanced article about us Ash

[dkbcleaner]

Yeah but people don't buy the paper because they want to read something good, crime and negative stories sell papers. A car enthusiast story will never make the main section of any paper. Thats what Motor and Wheels and any other car magazine is good for. Car enthusiasts are these magazines target audience and there's plenty of support for us in there.

Maybe one day people doing up jap cars will be seen as a enthusiast like the hot rod community, but I think the jap culture is still to young at the moment. If you look back at hotroding 50-60 years ago they were seen as hoons, rebels ect... Wait till gtr's and supras become 30-40 years old and I guarantee young drivers wouldn't even go near them.

[emts]

Yeah but people don't buy the paper because they want to read something good, crime and negative stories sell papers. A car enthusiast story will never make the main section of any paper. Thats what Motor and Wheels and any other car magazine is good for. Car enthusiasts are these magazines target audience and there's plenty of support for us in there.

Maybe one day people doing up jap cars will be seen as a enthusiast like the hot rod community, but I think the jap culture is still to young at the moment. If you look back at hotroding 50-60 years ago they were seen as hoons, rebels ect... Wait till gtr's and supras become 30-40 years old and I guarantee young drivers wouldn't even go near them.

and then the premiums will be good again..

when I was 21.

Std R33 GTS-T $2500 to insure

modified 66 mustang, (putting out much more power than the skyline) $700 to insure..

as only enthusiast's drive them...

[ashneel]

lol

[Wyseman]

Why would we send someone who wanted a hoon article to NS... it'll still give imports a bad name..

Send them to the XR6 or street commodore forums.. Plenty of hoons, no bad name for imports.

Hell, send them to the MG car club! I can see the headlines now.. "Grey Hair Street Menace"

[funkymonkey]

Why would we send someone who wanted a hoon article to NS... it'll still give imports a bad name..

there's some fish which don't take bait easily, then there's others that literally throw themselves onto the bbq sitting on the boat.

[Birds]

Maybe one day people doing up jap cars will be seen as a enthusiast like the hot rod community, but I think the jap culture is still to young at the moment. If you look back at hotroding 50-60 years ago they were seen as hoons, rebels ect... Wait till gtr's and supras become 30-40 years old and I guarantee young drivers wouldn't even go near them.

I think this is already happening with a shift towards Euro cars for many P plate drivers. Back when I was a P plater it was unheard of to be driving a Beamer/Audi/Volvo/Saab/Mercedes on your P's. See it all the time now. Young drivers may not go near a Supra in 40 years time, but will imports still retain the boy racer name they were always associated with? Like the hot rod community still retains the bogan image with the import community?

[dkbcleaner]

It's hard to say but stereotypes will always be around, but at least in that time people will probably start to see it as an enthusiast car.

[alr33x]

so much hate for NS.com..

the only article that will come from this would be journalist beaten and left for dead in some industrial estate..

jus sayin..

oh and until about 90% of the skyline population are destroyed it wont be an "enthusiasts" car

[WYTSKY]

You know, I don't know why we are all so upset by this....apart from the hoon name calling and stuff....

I would seriously love the opportunity to take this bloke in my car for the weekend. He'll be expecting reving and dropping the clutch at the lights and burnouts in the street and calling cops p-igs etc... and he will get a calm, boring passenger experience just like any normal driver would provide, because most of us on here are!

And as long as I keep the car above 20km/h his door will be locked and he will have to endure all my casual driving

Common Ian, I'll show you that there are NORMAL, SENSIBLE young drivers out there .... but i'm guessing that wont be much to write about.....

Adam

EDIT: Ooo! at 999 posts

[alr33x]

why is everyone on sau so keen to prove they are a 'sensible car enthusiast who never does anything wrong' no driver is perfect irrelevant of car i speed in my other car big fkn deal.. ya'll to sensitive.

[jezza boii]

I'd be up for helping out with this article. Can't say I'm much of a hoon though. I could bullshit though and make a good story I don't drive a Skyline either.

[R31Nismoid]

no driver is perfect irrelevant of car i speed in my other car big fkn deal...

No one has ever said they were perfect.

However to be labelled and sterotyped as a "hoon" and so on just because of choice of car, is wrong.

This is only occuring due to the mainstream media sensationalising the "hoon epidemic" that honestly has been blown so far out of proportion and it utterly reactive that it's not doing any good to anyone.

Would you like it if the media & society labelled you as a dumb theif just because you live in Melb's West? And then Police & the public hassling you everytime you walk down the street because of it?

All because of mis-representation, sensationlist reporting and minority groups with nothing better to do...

I some how would think you would not appreciate it, let alone then being patronised with the "you're too sensitive" remark.

By and large, this forum and the Vic club is filled with people that are true enthusiasts. I can't say i've ever seen any member overtly misbehaving @ club events, cruises and so on.

We get to have events, knowing that we won't be drawing undue attention and can enjoy ourselves... something that groups of import owners seldom get away with these days.

Members have every right to be upset over the whole climate at present IMO.

I've seen it morph over the last 10 years where we could easily have 15 skylines in a carpark 10pm on a friday night without a worry in the world in 2002.

2010 try do the same and you have the public calling the police to checkout "hoon gatherings", security patrols questioning what you are doing and so on.

All of this has changed in such a short period of time, and that is predominately due to the media.

[WYTSKY]

Im assuming ur directing this at me?

I am not perfect at all.. I have my spirited drives, who doesnt?

Infact I have a speeding fine sitting here next to me that I need to pay 64km/h in a 60 zone ... BUT I do not take part in illegal activities such as burnouts, doughnuts, drifting on public roads etc... the stuff they show on today tonight and that has been around for a long time that is associated as "hoon" behavior...

So if you think everyone on Sau is sensitive, no one is asking you to contribute or stay around...

EDIT: I said what he ^ said but in a dumber way

[funkymonkey]

I'd be up for helping out with this article. Can't say I'm much of a hoon though. I could bullshit though and make a good story I don't drive a Skyline either.

jeez, I hope to god you don't. It'd be like if they sent the village idiot out in braveheart to negotiate with the english.

[bluejeans]

lol you cant be serious..

get f**ked with your stupid media hoon shit - you honestly believe it wont be turned around!?

asking us to help out when you label us 'hoons' in the thread topic.

[Astro Bear]

jeez, I hope to god you don't. It'd be like if they sent the village idiot out in braveheart to negotiate with the english.

"They can crush oooor Skeeyleenes, but theey can never take oooor freedddddom"

[Downforce]

^^ ahh yeah, actually they can do that too (go to jail)