Vic Wasteland Thread

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

Jezza needs more lip!

[KamikazeNinja34]

Gtr got rear ended last night by some hyundai POS.

Just went to miscolor for a quote, 3g in damage to the rear.

Why can't people watch where they are F@&king driving.

could be worse. Mazda did same to me n he quoted me 6800... Which is why my insurance told me to go to a cheaper place heh

[Astro Bear]

Anybody here going to Tokyo Auto Salon in January?

I'm going and want to see if anybody from SAU will be in attendance!

[Basti]

f**king tyrejoints are shit. 3 didnt know what hub rings are, 2 say that they dont do em, 1 told me i dont need em. f**kers

[ClutchBurndout-:(]

go to the wreckers

tyre joints shouldnt stock them, ive been to tyre joints before and they dont stock them unfortunatly

[funkymonkey]

Technically you only need hub rings to install wheels. The process used to be that you put a hub ring on, tighten the wheel, then remove the hub ring. This ensured that the wheel was perfectly centered once the lugs are tightened. If your wheel is moving around after the lugs are tightened then you should be more concerned about the play in the wheel, the lug or the bolt.

Your wheels are either hub centric (centered using the hub) or lug centric (centred using the lug). most jap wheels should be lug centric with a wider hub hole to allow for varying axles.

So you'd kinda sound like a tard if you went to a tyre shop and told em that you want them to leave the centering tool in it after they're done. "Oh yeah, leave the cast on my broken arm on after it's healed, it adds strength to my arm".

Hub adapters on the other hand need to be hubcentric, as they aren't as lug centric as wheels are.

Lug centric wheel + lug centric hub adapter = fail

Lug centric wheel + hub centric hub adapter = win

Lug centric wheel + hub + no hub ring = win

Hub centric wheel + hub + no hub ring = fail

Hub centric wheel + hub + hub ring = win

kapish?

[Basti]

i was under the impression that hubcentric rings transfer load from the wheel to the hub directly instead of the lugs taking the force and doing stuff they arent supposed to do

[funkymonkey]

i was under the impression that hubcentric rings transfer load from the wheel to the hub directly instead of the lugs taking the force and doing stuff they arent supposed to do

like what? hold your wheel? that's what they do. that's all they do.

if your wheels are tightened properly and centred properly while being tightened you shouldn't need hub rings. unles syou have a hubcentric wheel. which I doubt, cos this isn't the 80's.

[ClutchBurndout-:(]

you need a hub ring, unless skylines are different

i had a wabbly as f**k wheel one day after i got some tires, and the installers left the hub ring out, once they put one back in the wheel was fine

this was on a honda civic

[funkymonkey]

you need a hub ring, unless skylines are different

i had a wabbly as f**k wheel one day after i got some tires, and the installers left the hub ring out, once they put one back in the wheel was fine

this was on a honda civic

that wheel was probably not lug centric?

[CrispyFries]

I've read both reasons for hub rings...

1. They just centre the wheel

2. They prevent the load of the car placing a shear load on the studs

[funkymonkey]

you guys realise that the need for hub rings is totally dependent on the design of the wheel, therefore whatever experience you've had with your wheel may not apply to his wheels right?

[Basti]

what ever the reason, for a max outlay of 40 bux, i'd rather have em and not need em than need em and not have em

[funkymonkey]

here...

lug typical of a lug centric install:

lug typical of a hub centric install:

the former transfers tension onto the wheel AND the stud, whereas the latter puts tension onto the stud ONLY. In some cases running a hub ring on a lug centric wheel can actually be dangerous as you'd be counteracting the tension on the wheel by the lug needed to centre the wheel, and instead putting stress on a part of the wheel NOT designed to take tension, i.e. the centre.

left: lug centric.

right: OEM hub centric

It's not a matter of "to be safe", ask yourself if you're putting tension on the part of the wheel that was designed to take tension. I'm sure you'd love your wheel to start fracturing from the centre where it may be weaker.

[CrispyFries]

Ok, that seems reasonable - but most hubs would be appear to be hub centric, having a built in hub ring - which would imply the studs aren't necessarily designed to take the full weight in shear, otherwsie why have the hub ring on the hubs at all?

[funkymonkey]

Ok, that seems reasonable - but most hubs would be appear to be hub centric, having a built in hub ring - which would imply the studs aren't necessarily designed to take the full weight in shear, otherwsie why have the hub ring on the hubs at all?

To centre it properly while being installed. IF your wheel needs a hubring, it will come with them. All aftermarket manufacturers supply locating rings for their wheels if they are needed. Lugs by themselves cannot centre a wheel properly, which is when you need a locating ring to centre it. Some wheels are designed to have this ring left after installation, others are designed to be removed.

[alr33x]

sup homo's

[THR34T]

Technically you only need hub rings to install wheels. The process used to be that you put a hub ring on, tighten the wheel, then remove the hub ring. This ensured that the wheel was perfectly centered once the lugs are tightened. If your wheel is moving around after the lugs are tightened then you should be more concerned about the play in the wheel, the lug or the bolt.

Your wheels are either hub centric (centered using the hub) or lug centric (centred using the lug). most jap wheels should be lug centric with a wider hub hole to allow for varying axles.

So you'd kinda sound like a tard if you went to a tyre shop and told em that you want them to leave the centering tool in it after they're done. "Oh yeah, leave the cast on my broken arm on after it's healed, it adds strength to my arm".

Hub adapters on the other hand need to be hubcentric, as they aren't as lug centric as wheels are.

Lug centric wheel + lug centric hub adapter = fail

Lug centric wheel + hub centric hub adapter = win

Lug centric wheel + hub + no hub ring = win

Hub centric wheel + hub + no hub ring = fail

Hub centric wheel + hub + hub ring = win

kapish?

[HEKT1K]

yo. are you as confused as i am by all this hub/lug bullshit?

my wheels haven't fallen off so far.. guess i'm in the clear

[Astro Bear]

So aaah, yeah.... who's coming to Tokyo Auto Salon?