180sx Vs 350z

[cm712]

Hay guys performance wise how dose a 180sx stack up to a 350z in Handling and acceleration

ie both with mild modified.

What would be better and quicker stock as a dedicated track car 350z or 180sx ?

[Mr Eps]

i answer this question with a question

....are you trolling?

[cm712]

no dead serious

[mad082]

in dead stock form the 350z will win. mildly modified the 180sx may just win, but if you turbo the 350z it will shit all over a 180sx, but it will also cost a buttload more to buy.

[Birds]

Cars are pretty close in straight line performance. Well driven 180sx shouldn't have issues keeping up with your average 350Z driver. Around the track meh 350Z.

[alr33x]

350z every day of the week but considering the extra 20-30k outlay may as well get a 180sx and go wild instead of mild.. but more fun to drive too but if your going for track times go a gtr 32 or 33 even

[funkymonkey]

180sx = old, 1980's tech, inefficient, lots of cheap spare parts, cheap aftermarket parts

350z = newer, 2000's tech, more efficient, spare parts are expensive, aftermarket parts are expensive.

both can be as fast as the other, at the end of the day the size of your wallet will dictate what you go with. as for track, if you're getting into proper racing classes, since the 180sx was never sold in oz it may not qualify in a few categories that the 350z will. if you're just getting into it as an amature, use a 180sx and bash it hard, rather than trying to baby a 350z around cos it costs more.

[NISSAN GTR]

i have owned a 350z - they have no traction turbo or no turbo , great cornering but still feel heavy steering wise , but thats about it.

NO TRACTION , great for drift

[alr33x]

i have owned a 350z - they have no traction turbo or no turbo , great cornering but still feel heavy steering wise , but thats about it.

NO TRACTION , great for drift

im glad you added that last line i was gunna ask how they are great for cornering if they got no traction they sound epic for drifting... but imagine the tears when ya slap that into a gutter/pole ... repairs would be more then a whole new 180sx id say

[funkymonkey]

how do you correct and adjust in a car that struggles for traction? just cos it skids doesn't make it a great drift car. if that was the case we'd all be using commodores.

i'd go a 350GT V35 over a 350Z Z33, the chassis just feels better to control. Plus it's probably cheaper compared to some oz delivered detuned bucket that used to be owned by some middle management shmuck that doesn't believe in depreciation.

[Munkyb0y]

i have owned a 350z - they have no traction turbo or no turbo , great cornering but still feel heavy steering wise , but thats about it.

NO TRACTION , great for drift

no grip. so true. i drove my mate's 350z track 6sp. i drove it fast but carefully, since it's not my car. it seemed to handle brilliantly when kept within reasonable limits.

then he drove. i said, show me what its got. we proceeded to fishtail, donut, and basically travel sideways for the next 10 mins. lol.

[Yo-Yo]

both can be as fast as the other

exactly, original post was kind of asking how long a piece of string is

you guys talking about the same 350z?

on the contrary I take "no traction" as sliding around uncontrollably, Yes I agree the 350z is a very 'tail happy' car as in you can induce oversteer on command fairly easily, but I felt it always felt very controllable

ie; a 350z powersliding was more due to driver input & choice rather than horrible car dynamics forcing the car to slide around

[PM-R33]

Drive a 370Z, you won't get it to break traction no matter what. I went into a 90 degree turn at 60km/h and coudnt get it to break loose. Fantastic handling.

[Mr Eps]

no you didn't.

[PM-R33]

Did actually. My mate owned the first black one in Townsville. Took me for a spin and let me drive it. He told me to do it, i wasn't game but he said i wouldn't be able to loose it. Mind you it was a wide road out of town and i took it wide just in case. But 60km/h into a corner no twitching, no chirp of tyres, nothing, just held the corner beautifully. Amazing cars (not the best looking), handle like they are glued to the road.

Never driven a 350Z so can't compare, but by the sounds of things, the 370Z is light years ahead in suspension setup/weight balance.

The only thing that i can compare in having the same handling is my mates old Evo. If you didn't tell me the 370Z was RWD i would have sworn it was AWD.

Edited March 10, 2010 by PM-R33

[R33_NICK]

most 180s are driven and trashed used as drift cars and you would almost never see them in good condition anymore. pity but true. as for 350zs, too expensive and modifying it is an utter pain in the ass (try removing the exhaust manifold or find correct wires to solder your gauges in,etc). but dont see how you can compare them tho. 350zs got a 3.5L V6 and 180 depending on model either the CA18 or SR20 which is a 1.8L and 2.0L respectively.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

180sx = old, 1980's tech, inefficient, lots of cheap spare parts, cheap aftermarket parts

350z = newer, 2000's tech, more efficient, spare parts are expensive, aftermarket parts are expensive.

both can be as fast as the other, at the end of the day the size of your wallet will dictate what you go with. as for track, if you're getting into proper racing classes, since the 180sx was never sold in oz it may not qualify in a few categories that the 350z will. if you're just getting into it as an amature, use a 180sx and bash it hard, rather than trying to baby a 350z around cos it costs more.

what this man said.... could not have said it better myself!

i have owned a 350z - they have no traction turbo or no turbo , great cornering but still feel heavy steering wise , but thats about it.

NO TRACTION , great for drift

no traction makes a car SHIT for drift....

Amazing cars (not the best looking)

wrong

[ssxRicho]

from the track on monday. next car 350z? mmmmmm

[funkymonkey]

Drive a 370Z, you won't get it to break traction no matter what. I went into a 90 degree turn at 60km/h and coudnt get it to break loose. Fantastic handling.

THIS.

370Z's are awesome, all the good things about a 350Z without all the shit things about a 350Z. Handling is epic due to shorter wheelbase, good power, good looks. Amazing car. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if it didn't have an overinflated pricetag. Will have to wait for depreciation to kick in.

[PM-R33]

Glad some one finally agrees with me on that They really have to be driven to be appreciated (kind of like a R35 GTR i suppose). Also the rev match down shift works perfectly. I thought it would be shit but Nissan pulled it off.

Lol Hamish, obviously those ones look great, i just ment in stock form, for an expensive new car (mate payed $70k for his i believe) they aren't exactly the greatest looking in stock form. To the untrained eye they look fairly similar to a 350Z.

Edited March 11, 2010 by PM-R33