Cam Gear Brands

[gtr_scottie]

hi all questions about adjustable cam gears. I know you get what you pay for in the end but is it nessary to pay the $300 per gear for say hks, tomei ect is there cheaper alternatives that you guys havent had any problems with. I just dont see the point in spending the money on the big brand names where there are as good for cheaper. Now i dont like the idea of only 3 small allan key bolts holding the adjustment on the cam gears so i am after anything really with the 5 locking bolts chears

[Duncan]

I've never had trouble with generic chinese gears with 3 bolts when done up properly.

[gtr_scottie]

yeah i guess if you did them up with lock tight it would be alright but i am just alittle worried thats all

[paulR32gtr]

Racepace down here actually modify the standard ones with a disc to make them adjustable, cheap option freight em down and back or see if you can get it done locally.

[N1GTR]

Yeah just send them to Racepace and call Chris/Ben

[T88 ON BOARD]

For Peace of Mind...I always use a well known/Proven Brand...Trust, Tomei, Toda, HKS there all around the $450-500mark for a set (IN/EX)

As you should know If they stuff up so does your head etc etc....

TODA is always my choice

[Duncan]

sorry I have to disagree with that - slipping adjustable gear would not move far enough for pistons to hit valves, they only allow a few degrees, not enough to hit.

[gtr_scottie]

thanks for the info guys yes i understand brands are proven but saying that if the cheaper ones are made from quality materials and lock tight is used on the securing bolts i cant see a problem with that can anyone else ? and i am also very much aware of what will happen if shit goes wrong with them hense me asking before doing

[T88 ON BOARD]

sorry I have to disagree with that - slipping adjustable gear would not move far enough for pistons to hit valves, they only allow a few degrees, not enough to hit.

I know of 2 people that it has happened to running China Crap Gears...

Although Might have other factors such as belt jumping a tooth, but on inspection the gears slipped a fair amount, And yes they were installed by a Reputable Workshop.

But i am sure alot of people are running the cheaper gears without ever having a problem.

[Duncan]

fair enough. one unfortunate day i forgot to tighten the bolts on my jjr one before going on the dyno. It happily slipped from one end of it's adjustment to the other without mashing anything.

[gtr_scottie]

so you havent had a problem with the jjr ones from just jap have you duncan ?? they are very well priced

[gtr_scottie]

or would the os giken ones be a better opption

[T88 ON BOARD]

Duncan i bet your heart stopped...

Scott im sure jjr ones wont have a problem if there installed correctly. But if your trying to compare them to the jap brands.. They suck lol

[gtr_scottie]

yeah i am sure to there is no worries with me installing them i wasnt worried about that i was more worried about them coming lose and if the extra money was honsetly needed as i am not to experanced with the rb26's

[Duncan]

Duncan i bet your heart stopped...

Scott im sure jjr ones wont have a problem if there installed correctly. But if your trying to compare them to the jap brands.. They suck lol

lol aint that the truth! I've been running JJR on the race car for years with no issues (other than user error lol)

also have run the tomei ones and found no difference.

[Duncan]

actually....one thing.

I don't trust the degree markings on *any* cam gear, china or not.

ie don't read the internet and just set them to exhaust +4, intake -2 or whatever.

you *must* dial them in for your exact setup. so expect to spend some dyno time trying different settings otherwise you are wasting your money

[SiR_RB]

is it worth putting better bolts inplace of the standard bolts the cheap ones come with? maybe some stainless bolts with spring washers ?

[gtr_scottie]

i guessing as long as they are tight with some tread locker they are not going to come undone and thanks for you help guys

[SiR_RB]

also be careful as some of the cheaper ones actualy have the Advance and Retard markings the wrong way around !!

[gtr_scottie]

yeah thanks for the head up it is only going to be driven onto a car float and taken down to sydney for tuning as i will be doing injectors and other stuff cheers