Mark Webber Attacks 'nanny State'

[gtsr31]

I always found f1 a yawn, but now Webber is my new hero.

At least when someone famous says something people listen, gets front page news and stirs things up, gets people thinking.

Go Webber!

[Birds]

Yer, on that note Hitler was a pretty well known dude who got people thinking...doesn't mean his heart was in the right place though!

[alr33x]

thats a poor comparison by your standards birds. your slippin son.

[scotty014]

thats a poor comparison by your standards birds. your slippin son.

true that, bad mouthing Hilter when he's not even hear to defend himself, thats just wrong.

[Birds]

thats a poor comparison by your standards birds. your slippin son.

Here I'll simplify it for ya champ. I'm not calling Mark Webber Hitler, but if you want to give rise to his opinion on road rules simply because he's a celebrity who races for a living...well I'll use a stupid little Hitler analogy.

Hitler - well known public figure, opinions got media attention.

Mark Webber - well known public figure, opinions get media attention.

Hitler - opinions were on par with a minority, a majority disagree.

Mark Webber - opinion is on par with a minority, a majority disagree.

A Formula One driver's opinion means SFA in this kind of scenario. When quite a few of them, Webber included, have a reputation for driving like twits on public roads...I'll take even Brumby's opinion over Webber's - and I farking hate Brumby. There's a reason his opinion has caused controversy. What Webber doesn't realise is that your average f***wit can't control the car they do stupid shit in, even if he can - and he's inadvertently defending what they do. So I guess I'd like to know at what point he thinks the law should come into play when it comes to idiotic behaviour. The line on unsuitable behaviour for public road has to be drawn somewhere...it's already been drawn, so pick your side.

You guys can call it nanny state or say the laws are strict...I reckon they're overly strict myself...but at the same time I don't have an issue with them cause it's pretty simple...don't do the f***ing crime! I mean, how many people NEED to do a burnout? I've never heard of someone accidentally doing a burnout. Lose your virginity, watch a movie or whatever...burnouts aren't exactly a requirement of daily living. I'm pretty sure Hamilton's life would have gone on, were he unable to do what he did.

[IOWNU]

Australia is over-regulated in general, not just when it comes to road laws, there are regulations for everything and anything you can think of. Red tape left, right and centre. I recall reading somewhere (can't remember where, might have been for some Law unit at Uni) that Australia is officially the most over-regulated country in the Western world. Seems plausible.

[Birds]

That may well be true, but we're also one of the most liveable in the entire world. Restricted freedoms aren't always a bad thing. Sometimes they stop alot of bad shit happening to good people. It's an unfortunate reality but when it comes to alot of things we can't actually trust average Joe to know what he's doing. It's somewhat comforting to know there is alot of red tape and regulation standing between him and I.

[Sami]

someone had to say it

[waxracing]

Living is dangerous get over it

Lets restrict the f**k out of it to keep people alive

Some things need to be regulated I agree , but give us a break.

There is so many rules in this place. I know its a convict state but gee dont make it a f**king prison

[tavstar34]

Webber is the man!!!

[tavstar34]

Webber is the man!!! The guy had enough of this crap!!

[alr33x]

Here I'll simplify it for ya champ. I'm not calling Mark Webber Hitler, but if you want to give rise to his opinion on road rules simply because he's a celebrity who races for a living...well I'll use a stupid little Hitler analogy.

Hitler - well known public figure, opinions got media attention.

Mark Webber - well known public figure, opinions get media attention.

Hitler - opinions were on par with a minority, a majority disagree.

Mark Webber - opinion is on par with a minority, a majority disagree.

you'll actually find if u read the age / herald sun reader comments the majority seem to be in agreeance with webber. as of yesterday anyway.

[Birds]

That's just a vocal minority. If it were really the case our state government would have been voted out when Liberals offered up a 10% of the speed limit tolerance on speeding a couple of years back. Whether we agree with it or not, this is what Australia seems to want.

[Interloper]

Finally a pubic figure that has enough balls to say it like it is. Hamilton should have done the same.

Webber for PM!!!!

[Flynnn]

That may well be true, but we're also one of the most liveable in the entire world. Restricted freedoms aren't always a bad thing. Sometimes they stop alot of bad shit happening to good people. It's an unfortunate reality but when it comes to alot of things we can't actually trust average Joe to know what he's doing. It's somewhat comforting to know there is alot of red tape and regulation standing between him and I.

Most liveable according to who?

Birds take your head out of your ass for once and look at this from a more open mind.

When we compare Aus to Us there are major differences in freedoms, rules and regulations. US manages to attract the elite class from any part of the world who flock/migrate there for a new life and to spend their wealth in a more relaxed enviroment, where as all we can attract are 3rd worlders who want to create a new life from scratch. None of the people from EU or US wants to live in this country...

It's obvious you've never stepped a foot outside of Aus, the grass is greener on the other side champ

Edited March 30, 2010 by Barbarian

[Birds]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_m..._Livable_Cities

Yep, them illegal immigrants from south of the border are absolute elite. Can't forget the right to bear arms which has always ensured a healthy supply of guns into the hands of American school children liberals. Take the good with the bad Barbarian. America has alot of freedoms, but that doesn't make it a model society. They have alot of shit going down over there that I'm glad we don't have here.

Attracting third worlders has more to do with our location on the map and a rather weakly enforced immigration policy - within a supposedly over-regulated nation we have here. If you don't think America has its share of 3rd world immigration then I lay claim that you haven't seen much of America. Also, back here in Aus we have one of the most culturally and demographically diverse populations in the world - consisting of people from all over the world (I guess that includes yourself). I suppose the Asian high rollers who frequent Crown Casino are 3rd generation Aussie? I can't fathom how you miss out on the elites we have, not that we can't do without them...I don't see how the presence of social elitres dictates one society being better for everyone than another society?

It's obvious you enjoy a good troll Barbs. That's why I don't want to argue with you and shall stop at this. Everyone gave you your marching orders to Europe in the other thread. It was full of people who had lived overseas and returned to Australia, pointing out how much better it is here. So really Barbs, what is stopping you? Because right now I picture you walking the streets of Australia with a frown just staring in absolute lividity at everyone and everything around you, feeling that you're somewhat better. Go and prove it to them mate

[funkymonkey]

When we compare Aus to Us there are major differences in freedoms, rules and regulations. US manages to attract the elite class from any part of the world who flock/migrate there for a new life and to spend their wealth in a more relaxed enviroment, where as all we can attract are 3rd worlders who want to create a new life from scratch. None of the people from EU or US wants to live in this country...

explain mexicans.

and the ghettos of all major american cities... you've got some serious blinkers on.

[NO-GTR]

new sticker on the number plate. "victoria- the nanny state".

[IOWNU]

That's just a vocal minority. If it were really the case our state government would have been voted out when Liberals offered up a 10% of the speed limit tolerance on speeding a couple of years back. Whether we agree with it or not, this is what Australia seems to want.

lol, not really. Political policies are multi-faceted, what you suggest is absurd. A State Government does not win an election based on a single policy consideration alone, especially on something that is comparatively trivial.

Most liveable according to who?

Birds take your head out of your ass for once and look at this from a more open mind.

When we compare Aus to Us there are major differences in freedoms, rules and regulations. US manages to attract the elite class from any part of the world who flock/migrate there for a new life and to spend their wealth in a more relaxed enviroment, where as all we can attract are 3rd worlders who want to create a new life from scratch. None of the people from EU or US wants to live in this country...

It's obvious you've never stepped a foot outside of Aus, the grass is greener on the other side champ

I've been to the USA, I have relatives there, Australia is considerably better in all areas. Canada however is comparable.

[adznight]

I've been to the USA, I have relatives there, Australia is considerably better in all areas. Canada however is comparable.

Agreed, it's material items, greed and fame that pull the "elite" to the states, not it's living conditions.