Lexus Lfa

[Mr Eps]

what???? there's a car class called HYPER car?

since when?

and how does it differ from a supercar?

[funkymonkey]

Supercars:

Lambo's

Fezza's

Sports Cars:

GT-R's

Vette's

Porka's

Hyper Cars:

Lexus LFA's

Super Hypercars:

Mazda Furai's

Super Mega Hypercars:

Citroen C-Metisse

Super Mega Redonkolous Hypercars:

Bertone Pandion

duh.

[iamhe77]

fark, glad that's been cleared up

[StealthX]

Supercars:

Lambo's

Fezza's

Sports Cars:

GT-R's

Vette's

Porka's

Hyper Cars:

Lexus LFA's

Super Hypercars:

Mazda Furai's

Super Mega Hypercars:

Citroen C-Metisse

Super Mega Redonkolous Hypercars:

Bertone Pandion

duh.

Yeah pretty accurate I'd say...

But why the apostrophes?

"GTR's" = GTRs. Plurals don't need apostrophes...

haha jks just being a prick

On topic, I reckon the new supra could even be a Lexus, as opposed to a Toyota.

I'd LOVE to see a new supra, with a reincarnation of a JZ motor. A big power 6 with forced induction, not like their poor effort with the FT-86 (N/A 4 banger...)

Subaru have it turbocharged and AWD, then toyota have it non-turbo and RWD. FAIL.

[iseekool]

Yeah pretty accurate I'd say...

But why the apostrophes?

"GTR's" = GTRs. Plurals don't need apostrophes...

haha jks just being a prick

On topic, I reckon the new supra could even be a Lexus, as opposed to a Toyota.

I'd LOVE to see a new supra, with a reincarnation of a JZ motor. A big power 6 with forced induction, not like their poor effort with the FT-86 (N/A 4 banger...)

Subaru have it turbocharged and AWD, then toyota have it non-turbo and RWD. FAIL.

I'd imagine the next "Supra MKV" would probably be powered by a varient of the Toyota 2GR engine with twin turbo - as opposed to a JZ engine.

[?UESTLOVE]

Sounds like you need to get into a Noble M600.

Would they be classed as a Supercar?

I have no idea what this Noble is haha

[Mr Eps]

how is ft86 a fail?

apparently subaru is ditching the 4wd and possibly scrapping their variant all together

and how is a highly tuned VVT NA 4 cyl a "fail"???

it's the FT86 concept - based on the AE86 concept. which as i remember, was a RWD non turbo, was never marketed as such. and never came with any forced induction. toyota is just re-living that feeling. let them!

[funkymonkey]

how is ft86 a fail?

apparently subaru is ditching the 4wd and possibly scrapping their variant all together

and how is a highly tuned VVT NA 4 cyl a "fail"???

it's the FT86 concept - based on the AE86 concept. which as i remember, was a RWD non turbo, was never marketed as such. and never came with any forced induction. toyota is just re-living that feeling. let them!

because no one in japan outside a handful of povo drifters (who can't afford new cars anyways) and workshops seem to care about a RWD platform N/A. The market is much more polarised these days, hence the shift towards fewer models with greater variance between them.

Want a cheap small RWD N/A coupe? buy a hyundai genesis when it comes out.

[iamhe77]

I have no idea what this Noble is haha

lol, well then I guess it ain't a Supercar.

But just for your reference, here it is

[Mr Eps]

sooooooooooooo munkeh you're telling me nobody in japan cares about rwd nonturbo.. orr people outside of japan? that's not to say you can't make turbo kits for them... they're a blank canvas i suppose

not to shoot you down in fear of your mighty banstick... but

rwd non turbo coupes

V35 skyline

350Z

370Z

s2000

hyundai genesis

Toyota FT86

so - there IS a market for them.

lexus. the lfa. what about it =)

[funkymonkey]

not nobody, just not large enough a market share to make it viable for parent companies of japanese manufacturers to approve. not like the old days before revolutionaries like Gohsn stepped in to remove 6 models that were the same shit with a slightly different headlight.

V35 skyline - not for sale in japan any more

350Z - not for sale in japan any more

370Z - midrange sports coupe for nissan, the v36 is a luxury sports coupe

s2000 - not for sale in japan any more

hyundai genesis - not for sale in japan yet

Toyota FT86 - does not exist

Toyota sells a Altezza/Lexus IS at a similar price point to what people expect to buy a FT86 at. Its a RWD N/A. Why would they make another one until the Lexus IS brand establishes itself as a "luxury sports car" in japan? Keep in mind in the eyes of the japanese an Altezza is just a RWD corolla. Toyota is still trying to establish Lexus as a luxury brand over there.

[iamhe77]

not nobody, just not large enough a market share to make it viable for parent companies of japanese manufacturers to approve. not like the old days before revolutionaries like Gohsn stepped in to remove 6 models that were the same shit with a slightly different headlight.

Toyota sells a Altezza/Lexus IS at a similar price point to what people expect to buy a FT86 at. Its a RWD N/A. Why would they make another one until the Lexus IS brand establishes itself as a "luxury sports car" in japan? Keep in mind in the eyes of the japanese an Altezza is just a RWD corolla. Toyota is still trying to establish Lexus as a luxury brand over there.

Could that be why they are introducing the FT86 then? To delete the "Altezza" and sell it as the Lexus ISxxx