I Just Dont Understand The Logic...

[blackrex]

I get what you're saying but speed still does kill. How many news articles have you seen beginning with "P plate car smashes into tree at 168km/h".

High speeds = less control of the vehicle + less time to slow down to avoid an obstacle

If you're flying down a road at 150km/h and someone pulls out in front of you, you're f*cked. Simple as that.

Watch the 'wipe of 5' ads. They speak the truth.

However, maybe if you had massive 8 pot brakes it would be okay

Like the one that has the stupid woman walk in front of an oncoming car without looking? Maybe the ads should be cracking down on pedestrians who seem to think that blindly stepping out onto a busy road expecting traffic to stop for them is acceptable.

Some of the roads around me have recently had their speed limits changed, some are now up to 40kp/h lower limited then they were previously. there has been no changes made to the road environment that would dictate this change, other than the police have twigged that they are the local rat runs between major towns in the area. Guess where the speed camera's and radar traps have been setup lately?

Also, did anyone notice that one of the fatalities that has been recorded on Victoria's roads over the Easter weekend was of a elderly male found in his car in a quiet sidestreet with minor panel damage to his car and the tree that he hit? Seems like he had a heart attack and was dead before the incident happened, but it is still recorded as a road toll. Same as with the truckie who died on the Eastlink a month or so ago, I think that he had a medical issue as you could see that the truck had run down the barriers before it hit the pylon.

[Harey]

I get what you're saying but speed still does kill. How many news articles have you seen beginning with "P plate car smashes into tree at 168km/h".

High speeds = less control of the vehicle + less time to slow down to avoid an obstacle

If you're flying down a road at 150km/h and someone pulls out in front of you, you're f*cked. Simple as that.

Watch the 'wipe of 5' ads. They speak the truth.

However, maybe if you had massive 8 pot brakes it would be okay

Did you not read the thread?

Yes there are occurances of people doing stupid speeds and causing accidents but the point is its under 10% of the causes to serious accidents. And yet the police would have you believe its 90%!

Noone said that speed wasnt an issue, but its only one of the issues. All the ads at the moment will have you believe that if you drive at the speed limit you are safe, what a load of crap.

I want to see the % of accidents that are caused by unroadworthy and unlicensed drivers.

"Senior Sgt Clarke said that as of 4pm on Easter Monday, 139 cars were seized by police traffic - 117 due to no motor drivers' licence and 22 for hoon behaviour.

"Holiday periods always seem to bring out the hoon in those who have it lurking somewhere in them,'' Senior Sgt Clarke said.

What a great summary of those statistics.... NOT

Edited April 10, 2010 by Harey

[gdogzgtr]

Every fatal i have been too I can say Speed WAS a major contributing fact to outcome. High percentage driver's also XPCA or drug affected. You hit tree at 20km/h you walk away, you hit at 120 I'm notifying your next of kin simple as that!

[scotty nm35]

Speed will always be a factor, thats the potential energy you carry into the accident but I dont think having a doobie two days before has much to do with it. Statistics can tell you everything right?

Driver skill and concentration levels have no impact, do they... Only because you cant graph that. Ban the ipod and mobile phone and you will save a lot more lives.

[Samon]

I get what you're saying but speed still does kill. How many news articles have you seen beginning with "P plate car smashes into tree at 168km/h".

High speeds = less control of the vehicle + less time to slow down to avoid an obstacle

If you're flying down a road at 150km/h and someone pulls out in front of you, you're f*cked. Simple as that.

Watch the 'wipe of 5' ads. They speak the truth.

However, maybe if you had massive 8 pot brakes it would be okay

Nobody denies an accident at 150km/h is going to have a more devistating impact than one at 50km/k... but what 'really grinds my gears' is when 'high powered vehicle' or 'hoons' or 'speeding' or even 'P Platers' (no, I'm not one any more...) are hilighted in an accident where the driver was either blind drunk or whacked out on drugs... it doesn't matter what vehicle they were driving, they weren't actually IN CONTROL of the vehicle... that's the problem right there.

Same goes where a 'Learner Driver' is cited as running off the road or whatever and then they say that there was no licensed driver with them... sorry, no. If there's no licensed driver instructing, you're not a LEARNER DRIVER, you're an UNLICENSED DRIVER.

[Harey]

Every fatal i have been too I can say Speed WAS a major contributing fact to outcome. High percentage driver's also XPCA or drug affected. You hit tree at 20km/h you walk away, you hit at 120 I'm notifying your next of kin simple as that!

Of course speed is a factor, if cars didnt move there wouldnt be any accidents (although I am convinced some people would still crash).

If someone was drug affected and ran into a tree at 100km/h, I would say the fact they were affected by drugs is the major factor. I would say speed was a secondary factor and not the cause of the accident.

I know lets get drivers on drugs to slow down so when they crash its not quite as bad

How many accidents are primarily caused by speed, this is my question. Some of the articles I have read suggest less than 10%. So whats with all these ad campaigns about speed being the issue. Have we just assumed people will be on drugs and drunk and we should limit the damage by slowing everyone down??

Edited April 12, 2010 by Harey