Modified Skyline 0-100 Times

[paulr33]

yeah but comparing a big single 3076 proper setup to twin GTR is a fairly different comparison

i vote for the 3076 setup on the GTR - 4wd, individual throttle bodies, lots of gearing

i think ANY car stock is fairly ordinary

the only stock car that has suprised me is a friends WRX here (non STI)

i think its maybe a 2004/2005 WRX, and it has tons of torque everywhere and its bone stock

it has more pull in every gear over my GTST with usual mods

[gwilkinson34]

yeah but comparing a big single 3076 proper setup to twin GTR is a fairly different comparison

i vote for the 3076 setup on the GTR - 4wd, individual throttle bodies, lots of gearing

Of course - but that's gonna cost you $30k more...

[gwilkinson34]

the only stock car that has suprised me is a friends WRX here (non STI)

i think its maybe a 2004/2005 WRX, and it has tons of torque everywhere and its bone stock

it has more pull in every gear over my GTST with usual mods

More pull than your car with 194rwkw? Really?

I've driven an (05 i think?) WRX with a big cooler, exhaust, intake etc (standard boost) and i didn't think it was any quicker than my 34 when it had 185rwkw...

It did have a more 'torquey' feel though, less revvy...

I have always liked WRXs - they sound awesome and handle a shitload better than skylines - but they are everywhere and I think the 34 just has 'something' that the WRX doesn't somehow...

[paulr33]

yep my GTST which ive had for 7 years has exhaust, intercooler, aggressive tune, heavy duty clutch, pump, splitfires, good tyres, suspension work, camber, castor, all the other bits and 192rwkw

the wrx is non-sti bog stock and its got 62,000 on the clock, my gtst has 230,000 on it

even when i had my gtst with 100,000 i still think the WRX has a bit more pull

i dont know how it would go on the street against each other, but i can feel the wrx pull more

and this is on light cruise, full gear runs, up hils and bogging it down

ie 50km in 4th gear lots of lag and floor it in both cars

60km in 5th gear lots of lag and floor it

the wrx seems to pull more consisntently all the way through

its probably a bit unfair as the skyline has a lot of km's on it

but the skyline also has 10k worth of parts on it

[paulr33]

yeah i should add the wrx feels like it will drop off quickly and the tacho redline starts at 6500rpm

the skyline seems to pull alll the way and not die off, but wrx pulls more

i dont know if its the 2L or 2.5L wrx, ill check

[gwilkinson34]

Fair enough. Must say the RB25 NEO I have is around 30rwkw and 50+nm better through the whole range until 5k than a non NEO with the exact same mods / tune (compared at Morpowa) so might have something to do with it... Newer engine in the Rexxy = better technology / flow than an R33.

Still surprising in a car that weighs the same and would struggle for 130-140rwkw (stock) vs 190+... Anyone got thoughts on this?

[paulr33]

yeah not sure what it weighs or what power it has

and not sure if its the 2l or 2.5l, but either way it is 4 cylinder

so

wrx 2l = 500c per cyclinder

wrx 2.5l = 625 cc per cylinder

r33 2.5l = 415cc per cylinder

that might be why

[gwilkinson34]

yeah not sure what it weighs or what power it has

and not sure if its the 2l or 2.5l, but either way it is 4 cylinder

so

wrx 2l = 500c per cyclinder

wrx 2.5l = 625 cc per cylinder

r33 2.5l = 415cc per cylinder

that might be why

Surely more displacement per cylinder does not equal more torque...? It's a whole system as our 6 cylinders = 1 crank rotation in the same time as the 4 WRX cylinders do...?

[paulr33]

dont know if its the be all and end-all but think of the EVO and the SR20

both are 2 litre 4 cylinders and pull some pretty good numbers and have good cc per cylinder vs other in line 6's

check out the barra XR6t

and we all know those things pull some spastic numbers

4l = 666cc per cylinder

[paulr33]

if we follow the CC per cylinder rule for most torque

the lowest is the R32 GTST and the highest is the LS1/LS2's

and the 200sx, WRX, EVO and XR6 are in the mid to high end

the R32 GTST, R33 GTST, GTR are in the lower end

give us some more engine specs / mods and ill chart them all up

[paulr33]

can a mod move these most recents posts to a new thread on torque specifically

as we are getting way off track from the original 0 to 100kmh thread

[bubba]

Just build a 30DET and be done with it