Engineeeeeeeeeer

[pism]

hey guys i just applied for permits an they accepted my forms and details they just want a engi to look over it anybody know of sum where good i can find one or who is one by any chance ! cheerz matt.

[That_timothy]

This is EXACTLY why I can't wait to have my CPEng. A few posts on forums, and an afternoon of carton-priced engineering certificates later, all would be well =]

[Menos]

Only thing that is keeping me at uni atm is the fact that one day, I can sign off any mod I want (With-in reason ofcourse).

[R DIRTY 3]

Only thing that is keeping me at uni atm is the fact that one day, I can sign off any mod I want (With-in reason ofcourse).

Sign off a mod for a carton of piss, schmuck rolls out the drive and kills himself for doing something stupid and your life is all but f**ked.

Enjoy your beer!

[N I B]

Do a search as theres a few approved ones in WA.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Only thing that is keeping me at uni atm is the fact that one day, I can sign off any mod I want (With-in reason ofcourse).

Not just any engineer can signoff on mods, you have to have the relevant qualifications and experience, and also be approved by the Department of Planning and Transport.

Look at IB-102 for the list of approved Engineer Signatories http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/licensing/1421.asp#vsb_forms

[Menos]

Not just any engineer can signoff on mods, you have to have the relevant qualifications and experience, and also be approved by the Department of Planning and Transport.

Look at IB-102 for the list of approved Engineer Signatories http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/licensing/1421.asp#vsb_forms

>.> Serious, that list has about 15 people on it... Electrical Apprenticeship here I come...

[gazza750]

maybe this link should be in the vehicle rego etc thread that is stickied as everyone is always asking about engineers

and i personally used Jack Apgar when my yank import had to be engineered and he was good

http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/lic_ib-102n.pdf

[That_timothy]

My understanding is that you can't sign off anything you own isn't it?

Memos which uni are you at?

[s2d4]

As quoted from the signatory document:

"Signatories recognised by the Vehicle Safety & Standards Section will generally have

demonstrable experience in the automotive industry and are members of one of the

engineering organizations below:

The Institution of Engineers, Australia (IE Aust), or

The Society of Automotive Engineers, Australasia (SAE-A) - Automotive Signatory

Group."

I doubt CPE is enough and is a load of crap anyway.

[That_timothy]

My (very limited) understanding was that CPEng was harder to get, or 'above' being in IE Aust?

Bottom line is that I'd like to get my name on that list at some point to give a bit back at some point =]

[s2d4]

CPE is harder to get but the unfortunate thing is that the whole scheme is set up by pen pushers. The whole sustainability and environment crap has nothing to do with the engineers apart from following standards or client's requirements. So unless you are part of an owner/operator company or a specialised environmental engineer (HSE) of sorts, you would not be making any sustainability or management decisions within the first few years of your profession.

In addition, they tell you it is meant to be a summary of things you have achieved and then once you've handed it in, they expect you to describe in details down to the software you are using to do a Fkn spreadsheet. btw, none of the team of engineers (20 of them) that I am working with right now on BHP expansion projects has CPE.

Last but not least, you need 52 hrs of training per year for at least 3 years to get CPE... coincidentally you will find that the company will be rather reluctant to send you on training sessions costing them up to +3k per day.

[Menos]

My understanding is that you can't sign off anything you own isn't it?

Memos which uni are you at?

Curtin.

Still trying to decide which engineering I'm going to enrol in. Original thought about electrical, but I hate maths, and electrical is pretty much pure maths I swear... So think I'm going to do mechanical...

[That_timothy]

Curtin.

Still trying to decide which engineering I'm going to enrol in. Original thought about electrical, but I hate maths, and electrical is pretty much pure maths I swear... So think I'm going to do mechanical...

Awesome dude. I made the decision to go mechanical the day before semester stated and changed my entire degree course and never looked back, much better than what I'd chosen before (civil... ugh).

s2d4 - That's interesting, I've heard a lot that it's just pen-pushing chumps who organise CPE but didn't realise that nobody really had it. What sort of qualifications do people actually need and have then?

[StealthX]

ECU motorsports FTW!

Loving this course...

2nd year so its all maths and science atm though

OP, I hear Dan Pitic is a pretty easy going guy who has had a lot of experience with Jap cars and skylines in particular...

Good on ya for going about things legally! hope it works out for ya!

[s2d4]

Awesome dude. I made the decision to go mechanical the day before semester stated and changed my entire degree course and never looked back, much better than what I'd chosen before (civil... ugh).

s2d4 - That's interesting, I've heard a lot that it's just pen-pushing chumps who organise CPE but didn't realise that nobody really had it. What sort of qualifications do people actually need and have then?

Well, there are quite a few old school engineers who are there due their experience. My boss at the moment used to be a sparky. It is only the ones that are 40 and younger who would almost always have an engineering degree. Although there is also a guy that used to be a sparky and is now the electrical engineer on our team.

So what I am saying is, experience is everything and then who you kno would be the next best thing. So I think the best option for you to try and get on that list is to actually talk to them and ask them how they got there.

btw, contrary to popular beliefs that UWA grads are the cream of the crop. Unfortunately most of them have poorer practical and people skills than the guys at curtin. Whatever you do, don't do electrical if you want easiest path to the best paying positions, like project manager/director etc.

[R32 Driver]

OP, I hear Dan Pitic is a pretty easy going guy who has had a lot of experience with Jap cars and skylines in particular...

+1 Heard good things about Dan

[Menos]

Bit off topic, but, does everyone get everything permitted?

Getting a FMIC for the VL soon, and want to change intake to a pod filter, so to not get yellowed, I need both permitted I assume. Still trying to figure out if 2 intake mods is legal here.

[Ehgriez]

they dont need permits.

[That_timothy]

Well, there are quite a few old school engineers who are there due their experience. My boss at the moment used to be a sparky. It is only the ones that are 40 and younger who would almost always have an engineering degree. Although there is also a guy that used to be a sparky and is now the electrical engineer on our team.

So what I am saying is, experience is everything and then who you kno would be the next best thing. So I think the best option for you to try and get on that list is to actually talk to them and ask them how they got there.

btw, contrary to popular beliefs that UWA grads are the cream of the crop. Unfortunately most of them have poorer practical and people skills than the guys at curtin. Whatever you do, don't do electrical if you want easiest path to the best paying positions, like project manager/director etc.

Oh ok, cheers for that. A lot of UWA engineers are pretty naff I find (I go to UWA, but spent a semester at Curtin earlier on) but I also thought that I got babied quite a large amount at Curtin when I was there. Certainly I have to work a lot harder at uwa, and having handed in literally exactly the same project at each uni (I didn't get credited for a project unit and had to do exactly the same project twice) I had a high distinction at Curtin and an average pass at Uwa. That said, a good friend of mine from Uwa argued once for hours that cars wouldn't possibly have fuses in them for any of the appliances....

I imagine that Uwa's more make or break, either you'd be really good, or terrible at the end, Curtin a bit more solid. That said, I can't imagine that it would make much difference after a while would it?