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Doing the usual head splitting search on the net for intercooler options for my S2 stagea and I am wondering if the same side inlet/outlet coolers are an advantage over the turn flow style. Just jap has a cooling pro version and on Ebay.com (usa) there is also a couple of other similar products with diferent style end tanks. The 2 advantages i can think of are 1. less piping and a little better response 2. no pipe hanging under the intercooler. I am only running stock turbo with a ebc 10 psi at the manifold 3" exhaust k&n panel and will get it nistuned. I have read that the stock smic is bad for heat soak and as i live in WA where it can hit 45 in summer i dont want to risk it.

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Unless and until you get a bigger turbo I wouldn't bother. I was making 220kw with a smic on my S1 Stagea - upgraded to a S2 like yours and then to a Nismo. The only time there was any "heat soak" was during an extended dyno sesion when the fan was directed at my radiator and virtually no air through the side vent to my smic.

Wait and see if it becomes a problem. By that time you might have decided that you want 260kw and then you'll have to get a bigger front mount than a small return flow type.

Cheers for the advise, but it now leads to this qusetion. What are the indicators of the intercooler not performing ie heat soak issues, under normal driving conditions, would i expect to see an increase on the temp guage? Loss in power or KA BOOM!! I really dont plan on going for any more than the stock turbo, I got the 260+kw bug out of my system years back and just want this as a nice cruiser/family car utalising all nissan put into their factory engines.

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