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Well incidents like this are just starting to re-inforce my growing believe that no p-plater should EVER be  

able to drive a GTR (or maybe even a GTS-T for that matter). I am all for people having personal freedom for  

doing what they want, but this sort of thing is getting beyond a joke. It just makes things worse for  

everybody else out there, those who have had the years of driving experience to be able to drive a powerful  

car and keep it on the road.  

:werd:

Any car is dangerous depending on how you drive it, i drive mine extremely sensibly, never put my foot down and i wont till i gain more experience...

Their are alot of safe p-plater high powered vehicle drivers out their,

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Need to come have a look and see if you have the bits I need (boot floor, spare wheel restraint, rear trim cover). Will keep this conversation to your other thread. Send me PM.

Bottom line - you can't repair that car. Not for $10k, not for $30k - it's a write-off. Sorry.

Insane. :(:):spank::spank:

I recently had an accident, mine was very scary but did litte damage to the car.

I was VERY lucky to get out being fine and some minor panel damage on my car. I was cm's away from a concrete wall and ended up on grass.

It has woken me up so much, before i was to ****y and wouldnt listen to people saying you need to be careful etc etc. Considering i got a modded r33gtst as a first car, i can say i know what its like to have alot of power too young.

Ive got an extra sense now, when i drive or go driving with someone, that keeps reminding me what happened and what could of happened.

Mines: I wont be like all the other people and 'be happy' that your crashed so you can learn your lesson.. get out of skylines or whatever.

Because when it comes down to it, we are all humans,we arent machines, and being young;- emotions and hormones controll alot of our actions. This is nature,

being young you are drawn to things that are dangerous and fun, there is a mental drive in all of us that wants to do things we arent supposed to,

its who we are, we learn from our mistakes and move on.

Im not too sure how you lost controll at 70km/h unless it was a dead corner or 90degrees. No one thinks logically or cognatively when there are in such an extreme short period of adrenelin, shock, fear, nervousness etc..

All i can say is get something cheap and reliable, and gain the respect needed to own a GTR.. then you will have The respect + memory of what happned = Controlled and Safe driving.

Dont dwell on what youve done/whats happened etc, theres no point crying over spilt milk, it will just make you furthermore depressed and you will start doubting yourself.. loosing all self confidence in other areas of your life, and eventually everything will fall apart.

This is a good thread for everyone to read, i do believe there is too many young people in fast cars (me included.)

There has been a string of skyline crashes in the last few months, mostly racing accidents. I think godzilla is getting angry at us and we need to respect its authority.

Keep it for the track.

Mines, i hope this one wakes you up, because next time you probably wont be so lucky.

Mines: U might want to look into getting a bare shell and swapping all the bits over, since from the looks of it i dont think any if little of the engine/driveline is damaged.

But the damage to the chassis is unrepairable.

Everyone makes mistakes.

Thats part of life.

Whats impt is that we learn to emerge the wiser

Just to form a different perspective on this situation...

Im 20, im male, im a P-plater (off them soon), and I own an R32 GTR. Yes its fairly powerful, yes its got HKS turbos, and yes its pushing out 300+kw. When I bought the car I felt invincible, I was driving the almighty godzilla, and I had the mindset as this guy... its godzilla, you cant kill it. How that changed the first time I got in it and managed to get it driving without stalling it. Even just starting the car sitting in the drivers seat I quickly came to realise this was just like any other car... if you abuse it, it will bite you back, and the main difference is, it will bite back hard.

While on my P's my main form of transport was my mums VS V6 commodore auto, of which I did alot of stupid shit in, burnouts, "skids" and attempting to drift it. In the process I have managed to crash up a gutter, blow the gearbox and stuff the brakes (and no im not proud of any of this). I am a young male, its common knowledge young males go out and try to show off and do burnouts and usually end up screwing their cars, in in worst cases screwing someones lifes.

But this all changed when I got the GTR. I have loved them since 1991 at Bathurst, and have the utmost respect for them, I would never intentionally do something where I knew there was a high chance id stuff something up. Im also proud to say I believe I have changed/matured. Driving it home from Sydney to Canberra I pulled over on the side of the highway and gave it a quick "squirt" upto 110km/h (the speed limit) and realised quite how much power these cars have, and how easy it would be to lose control of one. I rarely drive the GTR, it comes out on weekends only, and when I do bring it out, I drive it quite sedately. High speeds and stupid attempts at high speed cornering should be left for the track, where theres no-one walking around, theres no houses, only alot of grass and sand to run off into. When taking the GTR out, it rarely sees above 4000rpm/60% throttle and if it does, it 99.9% of the time stays under the speed limit. I am also looking at booking into the advanced driver training courses stages 1 and 2 at Eastern Creek over one of the weekends in the near future, as I believe I need as much driving experiance as possible if something did go wrong while I was driving the car.

But enough of the rambling, the main point of this story is... there are the odd young people out there with high powered cars that can excercise some restraint whilst driving on public roads and not being a complete dick. Its just unfortunate you're learning the hard way mines_datsun.

And dont bother repairing the car, its a complete write off... you could sell the engine for $5k/$6k as its reasonably low km's, then bits and pieces here and there. But you made a bad choice when you went around the corner, its now your turn to deal with it and live with that bad choice.

Its true, age is not the problem.. just the mind set. Look on the good side mines_datsun... your parents may try and kill you, but at least you didnt have a personal loan etc for the car... then you would really be stuffed.

Im after a few bits and am in melb - send me a pm when you decide what your doing.

Usuckpoo's idea is pretty good but u have to find a bare gtr shell which could be interesting.

dave

the car can be repaired.....from the factory seams....i have done many of them and you wouldnt spot them but i have to say that there wouldnt be much left of the original car....i would be unpicking the turret/A pillar and the floor pan and going from there...ofcourse a rebodie would be the go but very hard to find coz there either front hit or back hit...

I think the point is this...there are always dickheads out there...young and old.

Its true that young pple will always try to find ways and means to kill themselves, regardless of watever car they are driving, thats just part and parcel of growing up.

THat said, its lucky that no one here got hurt.

So dont put this guy down just because he's young and was lucky enough to drive such a car, unless u r saint enough to claim you've never done stupid things when you were young.

In the end, theres alot in life that depends on luck...perhaps fate.

i plan to repair this car and sell it dirt cheap. thats my goal for now and just get a shit box or something.

i really hope no one of the forum buys this car... as most people have said i reckon it will be a right off you have damaged the full structure of the car not just door... anyways i would also reckon sell it for parts...

mines: all in all shit happens....but u gotta learn from ur mistakes....u should have learnt the first time but *hopefully* u learn on this occasion

anyways, where did u manage to smash it? i remember seeing a silver gtr last nite at about 1am in south road...hmmm

ive got good experience in driving but not the gtr. its all i have to say..

for now i must say i have totaled my car.

Age 20 and good experience in driving.

Sorry buddy, but unless you do as much milage as a taxi driver there is NO way you could have enough km's under your wheels to be an experienced driver.

Dennis, you're a menace. And the roads will be a little bit safer until you are mobile again. Hopefully a little older and wiser and a lot lower powered. Something like a Datto 1200 would be good methinks.

my 2cents :( ... well glad the guy is ok ... lesson learnt or not is up to him ... and i do hope you have learnt your lesson cause .... 3 times ... well if you're lucky for 3 times then go and buy some lottery tickets ... cause i highly doubt that something this bad could happen for a 3rd time and u get away with scratches again ...

and for those of you who have come out flaming ... well i doubt it has done anything positive ...

last of all ... this thread should be stickered and put in the terms and conditions of entering this forum :)

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