Some Quick Advice On Rental Bonds

[Roy]

Hey people, i moved out of an apartment recently and it is takign longer then I anticipated for my Bond to be returned. In the past i remember it did take a while, biut don't recall it taking this long.

Anyone else gone through the whole bond return thing lately? How long did it take? Had a look in the Residential Tenancies Bond Authority website but couldn't find amy link to typical timing

[R TUNE]

My agent took $550 for a cleaner as she allowed new tenets to move in before i could get the place cleaned. so she orgonised it by her self. FFS am waiting on bond being 3 days

[Roy]

Oh, as a general rule Real Estate agents are lazy, thieving carnts. Make no mistake. I suspect they have been too lazy to sign and submit the form so suspect that is why I am still waiting

[Jetdat]

one of my last tenant's contract finished xmas but my agent held onto her bond until we agreed on how to fix/replace the bedroom carpet she burnt. It was around march she got part of her bond back and I got my money for the burnt carpet.

i have been investing in a number of properties for some years, i dont know however if there is a time limit as such.

[illblack]

Hey,

I work as a Property Manager and alot of the time it really depends on the situation.

Are you breaking lease? And how did the final inspection go?

Somtimes it is just the Property Manager being abit lazy, hehe.

"My agent took $550 for a cleaner as she allowed new tenets to move in before i could get the place cleaned. so she orgonised it by her self. FFS am waiting on bond being 3 days."

So she didnt give you any time to go back and do cleaning? Did you sign off on the bond before she had put any figures in there? She cant just throw an amount on the form and not tell you anything. If you feel it isnt reasonable call VCAT or Consumer affairs. 3 days waiting for a bond isnt bad at all.

Edited June 2, 2010 by illblack

[Roy]

Had been on month to month for about 8 months after having rented there for over 5 years. So no lease to break. The bond inspection went perfectly fine. I spent over $1000 having carpets, walls, glass and blinds all professionally cleaned after they had been given the once over as part of moving out. So the property inspection went perfectly fine with the exception of a $45 item which i promptly paid for by eft into the Estate Agents account to rectify.

So there is no way they can be using that as an excuse to be sitting on their hands! It kills me how lazy some agents are. In over 5 years, never was late once with rent. They repaired a blind that was damaged via wear and tear and I never made noise about things that i requested them to fix but never did, i just copped it.

Seems being a good natured tenant doesnt really get you anywhere, it seems when it comes time to pay back what you are owed they assume you again wont kick up a fuss....by the way they are still to refund the portion of my monthly rent that was deducted from my account as part of the std rent payment, but after the period of notice and subsequent vacating of the apartment.

So there is no typical time line? I have to sit and wait and contiunue to make $8-12 calls from overseas to resolve this?

Anyway, god help the next person I rent with. I am going to burn that place to the ground with a going away party. At least that way i get value for the ~4k of money donated to these muppets

[alr33x]

Oh, as a general rule Real Estate agents are lazy, thieving carnts. Make no mistake. I suspect they have been too lazy to sign and submit the form so suspect that is why I am still waiting

yeh good on ya f**k wit thats why we make retards like you wait to get there money back, for some unknown reasons tenants are the most arrogant broken down, scum of the earth dip shits on the planet think they know everything and the ground the walk on should be kissed i mean honestly if your so fkn good why dont you go buy a place? but hey thats a general rule. Make no mistake.

not to mention you havent said how long you have been waiting so its hard to tell if its an unreasonably long time to wait. The agent has very little to do with bond returns you sign the from and it goes to the RTBA a government body. Did you ask for the funds to be direct transfer or cheque to be drawn up?

sorry quick edit to. im not a property manager thank god i cant handle dealing with nothing but complaints.

[illblack]

Had been on month to month for about 8 months after having rented there for over 5 years. So no lease to break. The bond inspection went perfectly fine. I spend over $1000 havign carpets, walls, glass and blinds all professionally cleaned after they had been given the once over as part of moving out. So the property inspection went perfectly fine with the exception of a $45 item which i promptly paid for by eft into the Estate Agents account to rectify.

So there is no way they can be using that as an excuse to be sitting on their hands! It kills me how lazy some agents are. in over 5 years, never was late once with rent. They repaired a blind that was damaged via wear and tear and I never made noise about things that i requeste dthem to fix but never did, i just copped it.

Seems being a good natured tenant doesnt really get you anywhere, it seems when it comes time to pay back what you are owed they assume you again wont kick up a fuss....by the way they are still to refund the portion of my rent that was deducted from my account as part o fth estd rent payment, but after the period of notice and subsequent vacating of the apartment.

So there is no typical time line? I have to sit and wait and contiunue to make $8-12 calls from overseas to resolve this?

If everything went fine then the bond form should already have been sent to you, i assume they have the correct forwarding address. A bond claim form takes 2 mins to fill out and send off, so if they havnt sent it and theres no problems they are being lazy.

[alr33x]

My agent took $550 for a cleaner as she allowed new tenets to move in before i could get the place cleaned. so she orgonised it by her self. FFS am waiting on bond being 3 days

doubt it mate, they cant just take your money they would have to submit a claim to VCAT which you can attend and object to the agent then has to prove the damage, that you caused it and that the cost to fix it is fair and reasonable.

3 days is nothing the form states 14 days from memory. might even be 28 but 14 sounds more familiar.

[illblack]

yeh good on ya f**k wit thats why we make retards like you wait to get there money back, for some unknown reasons tenants are the most arrogant broken down, scum of the earth dip shits on the planet think they know everything and the ground the walk on should be kissed i mean honestly if your so fkn good why dont you go buy a place? but hey thats a general rule. Make no mistake.

not to mention you havent said how long you have been waiting so its hard to tell if its an unreasonably long time to wait. The agent has very little to do with bond returns you sign the from and it goes to the RTBA a government body. Did you ask for the funds to be direct transfer or cheque to be drawn up?

sorry quick edit to. im not a property manager thank god i cant handle dealing with nothing but complaints.

haha, that made me lol irl, yeah some of the people you have to deal with are scum.

And yeah once we send the form, its signed and sent back we just fax it to RTBA, the rest is upto them.

[illblack]

doubt it mate, they cant just take your money they would have to submit a claim to VCAT which you can attend and object to the agent then has to prove the damage, that you caused it and that the cost to fix it is fair and reasonable.

3 days is nothing the form states 14 days from memory. might even be 28 but 14 sounds more familiar.

14 days to make the agreement with the tenant, otherwise the agents screwed.

With things like cleaning, you just call the tenant and explain the situation, you give em a chance to fix the problem, if they dont fix it and dont want to pay with bond then you go to VCAT.

[alr33x]

i dont actually mean that, but fk me im sick of all these knts having a crack at real estate agents.

i tell ya what if all you kents weren't stingy fkn know all tight asses then you wouldn't need us to buy houses you could just buy it directly from the owner who happens to think his house is the best thing man ever built and just possibly jesus himself was born in the front yard so its $50k+ more than its actually worth and you wouldn't need real estate agents at all. chances of that happening? slim to none so in the mean time fk oath i'm happy to rake in the money from the stupidity of joe public and the morons who make statements such as roy.

what exactly do you do for a leaving roy?

yeh i knew something was 14 days hence why above story is bs.

[CrispyFries]

Oh, as a general rule Real Estate agents are lazy, thieving carnts. Make no mistake. I suspect they have been too lazy to sign and submit the form so suspect that is why I am still waiting

If you have your bond number you can check the status of the claim on http://www.rentalbonds.vic.gov.au/

[Roy]

yeh good on ya f**k wit thats why we make retards like you wait to get there money back, for some unknown reasons tenants are the most arrogant broken down, scum of the earth dip shits on the planet think they know everything and the ground the walk on should be kissed i mean honestly if your so fkn good why dont you go buy a place? but hey thats a general rule. Make no mistake.

not to mention you havent said how long you have been waiting so its hard to tell if its an unreasonably long time to wait. The agent has very little to do with bond returns you sign the from and it goes to the RTBA a government body. Did you ask for the funds to be direct transfer or cheque to be drawn up?

sorry quick edit to. im not a property manager thank god i cant handle dealing with nothing but complaints.

This is the 6th week! I have emailed the RTBA to understand if they have received it! Lazy carnt real estate agents love people like me. We pay on time, look after the place like its our own, dont make noise re things the place needs, dont damage the place. Then we wait, and wait, and dotn make unreasonable demands...as where does that get you. It gets you shit listed as the type of idtiot you describe above. So YES THEY CAN GET FARKED IF THEY ARE LAZY AND POOL EVERY TENANT TOGETHER and have some sort of superiority complex for being asked to do their job. Hell I am not even askign them to do their job in a timely manner, just in the time frame they describe!

If everything went fine then the bond form should already have been sent to you, i assume they have the correct forwarding address. A bond claim form takes 2 mins to fill out and send off, so if they havnt sent it and theres no problems they are being lazy.

They asked me to print the form out and complete it for forwarding to them, so am waiting for their signature and lodging Correct forwarding address, correct bank details for the payments , yep. It only took me 10 minutes to download, print, sign and pdf to email to them. (whish was their instruction)

[illblack]

i dont actually mean that, but fk me im sick of all these knts having a crack at real estate agents.

i tell ya what if all you kents weren't stingy fkn know all tight asses then you wouldn't need us to buy houses you could just buy it directly from the owner who happens to think his house is the best thing man ever built and just possibly jesus himself was born in the front yard so its $50k+ more than its actually worth and you wouldn't need real estate agents at all. chances of that happening? slim to none so in the mean time fk oath i'm happy to rake in the money from the stupidity of joe public and the morons who make statements such as roy.

what exactly do you do for a leaving roy?

yeh i knew something was 14 days hence why above story is bs.

LOL, im guessing your sales? It's like landlords asking for too much rent per week, not listening to recomendations to lower the price and getting angry when the place cant be rented out.

[alr33x]

This is the 6th week! I have emailed the RTBA to understand if they have received it! Lazy carnt real estate agents love people like me. We pay on time, look after the place like its our own, dont make noise re things the place needs, dont damage the place. Then we wait, and wait, and dotn make unreasonable demands...as where does that get you. It gets you shit listed as the type of idtiot you describe above. So YES THEY CAN GET FARKED IF THEY ARE LAZY AND POOL EVERY TENANT TOGETHER and have some sort of superiority complex for being asked to do their job. Hell I am not even askign them to do their job in a timely manner, just in the time frame they describe!

clearly something went wrong for it to take 6 weeks, and yes every chance they are being lazy checking with the RTBA is a good idea as they often lose stuff or reject signatures etc.

Just to be honest with you no agents get rich off property management and honestly the fact you "we pay on time, look after the place like its our own, dont make noise re things the place needs, dont damage the place" sorry mate reality check so you friggin should thats your end of the deal doing that is in noway above and beyond what all tenants should and usually do.

and yeh ill i do sales thank god 1 year of property management was more than enough for me, where u work pm me if u want we are always looking for pm.

[Roy]

...stupidity of joe public and the morons who make statements such as roy.

what exactly do you do for a leaving roy?

eh i knew something was 14 days hence why above story is bs.

What do i do for a leaving? Not sure, usually open the door and walk out. Sometimes leave the door open behind me as i was born in a tent.

Oh, you mean living. I am a qualified Mechanical Engineer, I am in India at the moment doing drug trials in the vaccine facility i spent the last two years building. Does that make me an idiot, a loser, better or worse then anyone else?

Mind you if i knew estate agents throught tenants were all scum and lower then life becaus we dont own homes... like somehow that makes us better or worse then other people and because we are all scum we dont deserve to get the usused rent and our bonds back...then i would not have bothered with making the polite calls to understand the delay.

But now that i understand we are all lower then low, i will just go back to waiting as i understand that poor real estate agents have to manage personalities like 99% of other professionals in the work place. I should just go back to being thankful that they talk to me at all! I work in a service industry and enjoy dealing with people in a civilised manner....hence why i get SO PISSED OFF WHEN PEOPLE TAKE THE PISS! And in this case I am pretty sure they are taking the piss.

But thanks, i now understand its just a waiting game and will just continue to follow it up with weekly courtesy calls to se how it is all going.

Oh, and why have i not bought a house? Well never wanted to own a place or live in the one place for too long. I cant wait to buy a place now, because as a person looking to buy it sounds like i am jumping a social class or two...oh hang on. I will be an ex-renter so probably still scum

And if you are so offended by somebody being pissed off with an individual in your industry then I take it you are aware of some of the people in your industry being useless. If my swipe at thiwving carnt agents was too generalised then i apologise and rephrase it to "my thieving carnt agent"

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Just to be honest with you no agents get rich off property management and honestly the fact you "we pay on time, look after the place like its our own, dont make noise re things the place needs, dont damage the place" sorry mate reality check so you friggin should thats your end of the deal doing that is in noway above and beyond what all tenants should and usually do.

Thats how i see it! I should ad I do. I take pride in my name and how i keep a place. All i ask is that the PM keep up their end of the deal. Sounds fair to me.

[Morgs]

Good post Roy.

From my own experience (as a landlord in VIC) managing one of my own properties it a while to release a bond for one of my tenants (including multiple follow up). Not sure if it was an isolated incident but it took a few weeks longer than anticipated / prior experience in other states.

[illblack]

Good post Roy.

From my own experience (as a landlord in VIC) managing one of my own properties it a while to release a bond for one of my tenants (including multiple follow up). Not sure if it was an isolated incident but it took a few weeks longer than anticipated / prior experience in other states.

It can take a while, but if you are following it up with the Agent, he should tell you if he has sent it to vcat yet or not.

Alo these days alot of owners are also tenants. Being a tenant doesnt mean your scum at all, but there are some really scummy tenants that give tenants a bad name hehe.

[alr33x]

you'll find my offence is because your comment was not specific to your agent who does sound hopeless so i replied in the same manner, given i am after all a thieving lazy carnt.

i frankly don't care for tenants and have virtually nothing to do with them these days, unless selling a tenanted property which is a nightmare every single time so i avoid it as much as possible.

There is useless people in every industry just like some agents are hopeless some engineers are equally useless and take forever to get things done thankfully the world has shit people and it makes it easier for the rest of us who aren't useless to capitalize.

take offense if you want but you'll probably realized my reply was as general and rude as your original remarks.

edit: my point relating ot why dont you buy was meaning you wouldnt then have to worry about the renting game at all. Home owners are often a lot worse then tenants