Turbo Or Buy

[scandyflick]

Basically, what everyone is saying, is, dont take a knife to a gunfight. Buy a factory turbo

what about a spoon? could that be appropriate silverware for a gunfight?

[Damo_R34]

what about a spoon? could that be appropriate silverware for a gunfight?

Taking a spoon to a gunfight is like trying to supercharge and turbocharge a RB25DE. Just go with the AK47 and put a fresh RB26 in it.

[On Edge]

Taking a spoon to a gunfight is like trying to supercharge and turbocharge a RB25DE. Just go with the AK47 and put a fresh RB26 in it.

i am likely to put a 26 in the coming weeks, but from rb25det

Edited June 4, 2010 by ON EDGE

[SkyHi_33]

totally not worth it...

its not only the engine stuff you have to worry about, theres also these factors:

gearbox (25de is basically an rb20 box which isnt optimal for a 25det)

possibly tailshaft

brakes

fuel pump and other fuel delivery associated things

engine loom may be different (pretty sure it is)

ecu

exhaust setup

by the time you get all that done, you still have to take it through the pits and get it all "legal" although i personally wouldn't bother untill you get defected or something...

sell up for what you can, and get a nice neat gts-t to replace it with.

Edited June 4, 2010 by SkyHi_33

[skyline_freak_r33]

hey guys

just letting you know

i bought an r33 series 2 body with an engine in it yesterday..

the engines got 100,000 k's on it

im hiring out a storage garage to part it

i want the engine in my n/a as soon as possible

do you guys know of any mechanics which are good?

all that needs to be done is engine put in

because the guy i bought it off it going to take it out of the shell and prep it for installation

so my old engine just needs to be taken out and the new one needs to be plonked in

any of you guys interested? if not you guys know of any well priced mechanics which are not too bad at this type of stuff?

cheers

[Madaz]

hahahah i just got mine done @

Just Jap Auto Dismantlers

1 Jacobsen Crescent, Holden Hill, SA 5088

p: (08) 8369 1899

f: (08) 83692033

Website - None Supplied

Email - None Supplied

Dave is the owner you will also need a new clutch and flywheel machined all ancillary belts 100k service kit dont expect any change from 2k

[skyline_freak_r33]

Hey,

Are you serious?

My car at the moment already has an aftermarket clutch? Not sure it will be compaitable with a turbo?

Not sure what one it is because the guy i bought it off didnt do it

also ive got the whole car?

so can i use the flywheel off the turbo car ive got?

cheers

[Madaz]

yeah man very serious, it may well be more than 2k as i bought my parts over a 4 week period prior to fitting i lost track of how much was spent

i can give a comprehensive run down later of everything i bought i supplied all parts to Dave he just fitted everything up

as it will take me 10 mins to get links of parts i bought i don't have that time atm but will tonight

[skyline_freak_r33]

ahkkk cooll

because the guy said i can take whatever parts i want off the car in order to turbo mine

cheers

[Madaz]

i tried to do a detailed list but the website i bought from is down ill post up later when its up with links to everything

[Madaz]

ok website back up as promised

Engine Parts:

1 x Timing Belt Kit, Nissan RB20/25/26 DOHC $290.40

1 x Belt Set, Ancillary, Dayco, Nissan Skyline R33 GTS25(-t) & GTS-4 $66.00 << these have gone up

1 x Gasket, Intake, Genuine Nissan, R33, R34 & C34 (RB25) $86.90

1 x Gasket, Exhaust Manifold, Nissan RB20DE(T) & RB25DE(T) $116.60

1 x Engine mount $85

1x 5lt engine oil fully synthetic $50 Nulon turbo grade

1x oil filter

1x thermostat $55

1 x rear main seal $60 ( i paid less again 2nd hand but new)

Gearbox Parts:

1 x NPC HD ceramic clutch $550 (could get a cheaper clutch or stick with your own)

1 x flywheel machine $50 (if sticking with own clutch wont need this)

1 x Nismo Clutch Pivot $66 (only needed when getting a HD clutch)

1 x Clutch Slave Cylinder, Nismo, Big Bore, ECR33/BNR32 Push Type $242.00 (i bought 2nd hand but brand new )

1 x Nismo Braided Line (not really needed but i got 2nd hand but brand new)

1 x gearbox out to muck around with clutch again $375 (shouldn't be needed my thrust bearing was wrong)

1 x Labour $880

then you have to factor shipping on all goods as most stuff i got was sourced interstate

ok everything that i replaced if i was to pay full price was $2982.90 i did how ever save my self a few hundred

and if you cheap out on parts you will break 2nd hand parts out of the other car and have to pull things down twice = more money

[PhilKenSebben]

yay.

Good luck with that. Well, you went against the advice of all the people whose advice you initially asked for. You shall emerge from this job either a hero to the little guys who say "it can be done on the cheap", or a bitter and angry person who has discovered a way to spend GTR dollars on a converted gtst which will have an even worse resale value.

You're keen on the car you have, believe me, I understand.

But they way you acted so horrified when someone posted that you could easily be up for $2k just leads me to believe you have truly not thought this through.

Sad note. sorry...

[skyline_freak_r33]

you talking about me?

me against everyone's opinion?

i listened to everyone's opinion and took the cheaper way out by buying an engine

i've actualy picked up this engine for a very very good price considering the money i'm getting back with parts im selling off it

i've already got a person whos private whos doing the installation for a good price

also the stuff off that list is coming off the car i bought which im going to keep completely stock at this moment

i dont get it why have i made such a bad decision?

[Dohmar]

you talking about me?

me against everyone's opinion?

i listened to everyone's opinion and took the cheaper way out by buying an engine

i've actualy picked up this engine for a very very good price considering the money i'm getting back with parts im selling off it

i've already got a person whos private whos doing the installation for a good price

also the stuff off that list is coming off the car i bought which im going to keep completely stock at this moment

i dont get it why have i made such a bad decision?

i dont think its about u making a bad decision - buying an engine for spare parts is a very pragmatic thing to do imho

however

it does not necessarily solve your problem - you may very well fit a 2nd hand component and have the same thing happen again

its not a nice thing to think about, however once u start tweaking anything on a car past the manufacturers specs, all the supporting faculties need to be brought up to the proper standard

this is why ive spent $20k on my gtr over the last 3 years and done absolutely NO performance gaining mods - 20 yr old cars need work, no matter what anyone says

now, removing a turbo and the associated piping does take a while. double that if u have a gtr but ill assume ur running a single based upon ur posts

unless you are a dyno queen or a professional racer i would recommend a fast spooling turbo rather than a laggy one - and ignore the power requirement - the whole reason nissan opted for a parallel setup was to mitigate turbo lag, as inevitable as it is, however you can fit turbos that give you the best of both worlds for street use. the previous posts here have spelt out explicitly some of the best turbos to go with based upon their first hand experience. I personally would put Garrett above most brands (garrett rebuilds like HKS not counted) because thats who nissan chose to build their turbos for the entire run of the RB series engine.... ultimately the coolest thing about engine modding is that u can rebuild/mod the engine for >precisely< what u want to do with it, and im rather boring as I run my gtr as 99.9% street/daily and 0.1% track car

btw, even if u try to save money, a gtr will cost you money. a lot. dont take my word for it. just ask those who know.

-D

[Krishy]

if you bought a whole car then why are you taking a good running motor out of that???? would make sense to just fix any damages and get it back on the road.....prob be cheaper as well lol

[DamageInc]

if you bought a whole car then why are you taking a good running motor out of that???? would make sense to just fix any damages and get it back on the road.....prob be cheaper as well lol

thats not an option Krishy.

[Krishy]

may i ask why??? write off??? race/rally import???

[skyline_freak_r33]

not registered as a write off

but looks like a write off

but definetly not worth fixing completely stuffed rear end and no interior parts left

[Krishy]

thanks for clearing that up mate