SERIOUS NEWS -- 15 Year Rule WILL CHANGE ON 1 JAN 2005

[BoyWhoCriedWolf]

To all,

Remember way back when you were driving your shitbox corolla around because a. you didnt have the money to buy that series 4 rx7 or b. because there is nothing else good on offer at a reasonable price??

Those days are gone. You can now buy your r31 skyline, rx7, celica gt4 or even a ceffy if you are that way inclined for a CORRECT price (not a hugely inflated one). These cars are sometimes the only way an enthusiast starts his or her's lifelong desire for performance cars. The 15 year vehicles open the market to more people not only on price but also variety. As posted by drifft

Once RAWS settles down the only varying factor will be the cost of parts and the fee will be standard as anybody can now do any car on the list. Some people will pay up to $2,000 plus repair work to comply a 1988 RX7 and pay $4,500 + Tyres for 1997 Stagea.

With a buy price of 400,000 FOB plus a broker fee of $1,100 and compliance of $2,000 and ORC for a RX7 and a 1997 Stagea for 600,000 FOB, compliance of $4,500 plus tyres and I personaly know of workshops who will help you get a clean car for a no brokerage fee, if you use the right buyiers that send clean cars, (offical auction cost to show no kick back).

Please note - people who want to buy a stagea will buy a stagea. People who want to buy an rx7 will buy an rx7 - cost does not always come into it.

As for the brokerage system - this is my 2 cents.

I have purchased many vehicles through this system and have always had good results. I am buying cars cheaper than i ever could from the caryard - i am buying the car i want (the colour, the trim, the modifications (prior to raws)) at a price i can afford. If you have problems with a broker - go find another one, its that easy. Some people have been caught out by brokers, some by caryards, some even by our new raws people!!!! Do your &^*%# research people and dont get caught out. Ask your freinds where they bought their cars, or from which brokerage service - were they happy with the result?? the service?? the communication between themselves and the broker/caryard?? If you use your head you shouldnt have any problems.

If you want a broker to buy you good quality cars - pm me - i have no problems in recommending you to my broker.

thanks for listening

RBNT

Drifft,

(offical auction cost to show no kick back).

WTF?

[Guest]

The main point of view I have is this,

The system is for the enthusiast who want a Cerfino or RX7 not a 2 ton truck.

I wish it was left alone and said no Aussie delivered car should be allowed to come in and vehicles go through a tough pre rego check.

Most RAWS dont want to do cars older than 10 years anyway due to chance of failing inspection, finance and insurance.

What about John who owns www.therotaryshop.com.au and if the rule comes through what the **** is he going to do.

I own a hotted up series 4 RX7 and I dont want to sell it, but I still want a Chaser or Stagea.

A few people who wont sell the 100 plates would rather find a clean car for a customer than not sell a plate.

The price of R33's has already droped in the arese and it is as low as $3,300 plus tyres so it will happen to all of them.

(offical auction cost to show no kick back). WTF? That is because I know of one RAWS getting kick backs from Japan when he sells their stock.

If it was left alone it wouldnt worry me in the faintest, but with people using it as a loop hole to bring shitters in they had to go wait a minute sooner or later.

The point with RX7 against Stagea was what people are being charged and I did state it is just an example.

With compliance the cost was a at worst for states like NSW.

I am only trying to explain why these decisions are made not justify them in any way, this is what lobby groups use for as examples.

[predator]

I do agree though that many of the people that complaining most veremently are those who were pushed into the 15 year things because they didn't have funds, willingness, or maybe even a clean enough record to be able to become a RAWS importer. And that is largely for *their* own self interest they are pushing people to lobby the government to scrabble, and claw with their last few steps until their business is extinguished. ..

They are the ones that you need to watch as they don't give a toss about the consumer, just lining their own pockets and doing the least they have to. For them its much "easier" and more profitable to not go through a strict importation regime. I'm not sayign that any out there do it "for the good of the people", and it is all about making money after all, but as anybody knows, there are legitimate ways of making money, and quicker and easier ways of making money.

[BoyWhoCriedWolf]

The main point of view I have is this,  

The system is for the enthusiast who want a Cerfino or RX7 not a 2 ton truck.  

I wish it was left alone and said no Aussie delivered car should be allowed to come in and vehicles go through a tough pre rego check.

Most RAWS dont want to do cars older than 10 years anyway due to chance of failing inspection, finance and insurance.

What about John who owns www.therotaryshop.com.au and if the rule comes through what the **** is he going to do.

I own a hotted up series 4 RX7 and I dont want to sell it, but I still want a Chaser or Stagea.

A few people who wont sell the 100 plates would rather find a clean car for a customer than not sell a plate.

The price of R33's has already droped in the arese and it is as low as $3,300 plus tyres so it will happen to all of them.

(offical auction cost to show no kick back). WTF? That is because I know of one RAWS getting kick backs from Japan when he sells their stock.

If it was left alone it wouldnt worry me in the faintest, but with people using it as a loop hole to bring shitters in they had to go wait a minute sooner or later.

The point with RX7 against Stagea was what people are being charged and I did state it is just an example.  

With compliance the cost was a at worst for states like NSW.

I am only trying to explain why these decisions are made not justify them in any way, this is what lobby groups use for as examples.

Driftt,

Well done buddy, you have had a shot at the two biggest business units that are steering the wheels of the JDM import industry into Aus (brokers/raws). Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Everyone has had a go at George dubbya Bush too - is he next your target???

Moderators please pm me if you feel that this over the line and I will post an apology.

Best regards all,

RBNT

[Godzilla32]

Everyone has had a go at George dubbya Bush too - is he next your target???

If he's not he should be...Haha

Anyway, on a more sensible note, i aggree with the proposal of revising the SEVS import scheme. Thus reducing the number of 15 yr imports. I recently bought a '89 GTR and had always planned for my next car to buy sumthing under the SEVS scheme. Something newer.

[AzzurrA]

congratulations on digging up an 11 month old thread

[Duncan]

hahah 10 ppl reading this thread ATM....way to bring it back Godzilla32

There has been a recent discussion on the changes int he Importation section

[Godzilla32]

Haha oops i shoulda checked the date hey?!? Oh well if your gunna do it do it properly! Bring it back in style...its back in fashion!

Take care guys,

Deren

[BoyWhoCriedWolf]

Ahhh, I remember the days.....

[homer2288]

IMO - this change = biggest cow dung u can find. :spcow:

As pointed out - that jap 15 yr old imports are far more superior than local cars of similar age in terms of safety and emission. So if one compares 10 local old bombs with 10 jap 15yr old imports - emission will from jap imports would be much lower than local old bombs. Regulations and policies in Japan is more stringent than aus.

The fear and speculatiion that jap imports will kill local car market = biggest pile of cow dung. :spcow:

I think the gov't can get away with things like this - becos it is functioning like a mafia gang... :skull:

Consumers are being bullied by all these red tapes and cow dung.

[fane]

:werd: dAVE, i dont want my car to lose $$$

[JH32]

:werd: dAVE, i dont want my car to lose $$$

like it or lump it, your is going to depreciate no matter what happens with the rules

[Aya]

Lucky I bought my GTR at this year.

But still I should say for the japanese cars. When they came out that was brand new. You wouldn't have any problems on it. But when the age came up, it will start break every single part that u can image. Coz that's happened on my 89 GTR. Spent 1000 already for just repair it.