Help With Loss Of License

[Gojiraboy]

Had a good day today...

Got home today at 10:50am, Police bike pulls up in driveway gives me on the spot for 82 in 60 zone, Breach of P conditions, so expect to lose my license. This is my second speeding offence, both on my P2's. Last year i copped three demerit points one month before i was 19 (able to get full license) so drove around on 1 point for a year and bit. Was to get my full license in 21 days when i turn 20, and was wondering as i have a month from today to pay fine and then the expiation notice will come out could i wait get my full license and get around losing my license or would this just come back to me as I technically got done on my P's. I rang up straight away to find out what I'm in for and was told i would be disqualified for 6 months then 2 and a half years on P's, but if i appeal and win i could waive the loss of license and have p's for 2.5 years as well.

Wat do you think my chances of winning my appeal are as this is my second offence for speeding both more than 15 ks over. I need my car for work so this is my grounds for being given a demerit point back.

One other question too, a workmate told me he pulled into his driveway and a copper pulled up on sidewalk and asked him too cross boundary of property so he could issue him a fine, he didn't and received nothing. Is this likely, as i pulled up driveway and copper parked at end of it and i went to to him? was this a costly mistake or was i always gonna cop it?

[Damo_R34]

Its a little strange that he came to your house and didnt pull you over straight away. Id ask for the photo evidence.

[San-Ni]

Hey

82 in 60 zone? where was this recorded (how far way from you home)?

Breach of P conditions (what conditions did you breach)?

[typevu]

21 days until you get your fulls? Ouch thats nasty.

You could wait until you get your fulls, no harm trying. Otherwise, if you havent appealed before you could do that on the grounds of you need it for work.

[typevu]

Breach of P conditions (what conditions did you breach)?

More than 10km/h over the speed limit = lost of license.

[Weezy]

Pay the fine in 21 days after you have applied for your full license?

[San-Ni]

21 days until you get your fulls? Ouch thats nasty.

You could wait until you get your fulls, no harm trying. Otherwise, if you havent appealed before you could do that on the grounds of you need it for work.

Damm P plate laws.... yeah like typevu said, appeal it on the grounds of needing your licence for work, worth a try....

[Gojiraboy]

He put his lights on before he pulled into my street but was a fair way away, it was like 500m's away from my street where he would have caught me.

I will probably go for full license unless i get expiation before I'm 20 and if i get that then ill appeal. the worst thing is the cost really, first fine 370 for 18 over, this one was 430 for 22 over and p licenses are about, 150-200 all up for extensions of P1's and P2's and then if i appeal thats around the 200 all up i think, i also got done for unregistered vehicle start of last year because i forgot to pay 5 days earlier that was 300 too. and I'm supposed to be saving for a trip to Europe in September on first year carpenter wages. so all up Ive paid about 750 so far and maybe 800 to go. f**k i hate making driving mistakes like this you pay through your teeth, but hopefully i will learn.

The first one i got done in my missus mums Astra and was thankful it was a on the spot so she didn't find out. i wasn't supposed to drive the car while she was overseas but when to just get desert and came down golden way, golden grove too fast, no excuse was very thankful to the cop for 3 demerit points, literally did 55 in 60 in left lane of course for three months after.

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Edited June 15, 2010 by Gojiraboy

[Carbon 34]

guess you should have driven slower ????

at least it was a real cop not a revenue machine at the traffic light

did you learn a lesson ? like speed on the track instead ?

do the crime,, due the time, it sux but it sounds like you did it and want out of it ?

[Weezy]

I don't think you answered ANY of his questions troy?...

[Dohmar]

He put his lights on before he pulled into my street but was a fair way away, it was like 500m's away from my street where he would have caught me.

Challenging the photographic evidence or the calibration of the speed/laser gun is your only way out.

A second appeal will usually fail - even if you need it for work.

Waiting the 21 days before paying the fine MAY work but only if the expiation authority uses the available demerit points when they process it rather than the amount of demerit points available on the day.

That said a judge wont look favourably to that level of speeding, even if it was a first offence I doubt any appeal would be sustained.

My 2c? Get a lawyer.

-D

[Nightcrawler]

Sorry I have to agree with Troy - how about you STOP SPEEDING?! Do the crime, do the time.

[SLED]

Save your money on lawyers if you've already appealed once....no good a second time unless you've got a very good reason for being 22kph over the limit on your P's.

Cops are within their right to enter your property by the way.

[Gojiraboy]

Yes i did it, I became complacent as its the home stretch, more or less paddocks both sides and yes i know speeding is against the law, i tried pretty hard not to speed this last year, it was my mistake and I'm willing to pay for it IF I HAVE TO. If there is an easier option i will by all means take it, why someone would just take it all, possibly lose there job and become unproductive beats me, i am willing to learn from my regrets.

worst thing is I don't have a skyline or a performance car of any sorts, i have a 93 Accord stock manual

speeding is dangerous to everyone, a nuicence and an expensive habit that should be left to the track and i will learn my lesson. I agree with the big fines as this hurts more than demerit points or loss of license. (did you know p platers get $100 extra for the fine if its a breach of conditions compared to full license)

Sorry if i sound like i was trying to get out of it all, speed is my demon, not burnouts or drag races or drifting. im just impatient on a couple of occasions.

[typevu]

even if it was a first offence I doubt any appeal would be sustained.

Many moons ago I successfully appealed saying I needed to get to school

[Gojiraboy]

havent appealed before so will try.

Disappointed in myself and have hopefully learnt lesson for life.

[Weezy]

Usually first appeal will be passed no matter what the case. You can't appeal twice in 5 years. END

Trust me... I've been stung for already having appealed once in the previous 5 years and my appeal was because i didnt have P plates displayed... FFS. 11 months to go.

[Nightcrawler]

I like your attitude Gogiraboy .... go to a judge with that sense of humble apology and hopefully you will be ok.

[Damo_R34]

Can i ask why a Honda driver on his P's joined a modified Skylines forum to ask about their license?

[Gojiraboy]

lol yes you can because i want a r34 gtr at some stage in the next 10 years of my life, (like every other human duh) so ive read up on here alot.

I didn't join for this, but it is the only forum im attached to and i thought alot of the members might have been in the same boat as me with your skylines and all. jk

sau has a big base and alot of experience through its members that i thought could help and did.

I asked transport SA about it on the phone and the bloke didnt want to offer me any way out of this, understandably so i came here.