Opposite To Speeding

[JEPPE]

Also, does anyone in this city know how to drive a round about?! Seriously, there are two lanes.. so you can enter it if there is another car already in a round about with 2 lanes as long as they are not in your lane. Jeez it can get annoying when you're waiting 5 minutes to get to a round about because of the que.

Can we make this the 'Traffic Rant Thread'?

[Do-Luck]

Try the one at the start of Royal Pde, with the tram lines going through it. People have NO idea around there lol

[rs73]

that could be a grey area if an accident happen you are going to be at fault because cars in roundabout already have right of way regardless whether you think they're in your lane or not...

[JEPPE]

Yeah true, but I think that if they change lanes while in a round about they still have to indicate... so if they don't then it's even more grey

meh, they're not going to learn how to drive any time soon so I just treat other drivers like they're all idiots.

[teK--]

Pretty sure the rule is that you have to give way to your RHS in a roundabout regardless of if they are in your lane. Even turning into a main road I don't go unless I have two clear lanes. You just never know what idiot is going to change lanes into you just as you're pulling into the lane next to them.

[some_cs_student]

On the M3 today, two lane were become 1, I was doing about 99km/h, car in front was going a bit slow, maybe 90km/h, instead of speeding up when I hit the brakes, because they're lane was about to end.

They put the right indicator on, and slow down even more and partially merge, fortunately there was room to switch lanes. I think he was nearly at a complete stop in a 100zone while merging.

They had right of way when merging because they were in front, but obviously they don't understand merge laws at all

[JEPPE]

Ok... I thought this might be hard to describe. If I'm sitting at a round about turning left and it has 2 lanes heading each way perpendicular in front of me, I can go even if there is someone coming from my RHS as long as they are in the inside lane and I stay in the left lane. They are two seperate lanes, obviously being careful and making sure they're not going to change lanes (which would technically be illegal without indicating creating a grey area) is a smart thing to do since people don't usualy respect lanes in round abouts. But most drivers think that they have to wait for the inside lane as well which means that traffic sits for about an hour at every damn round about in heavy traffic. The massive round about at Greensborough bypass is a good example.

[rs73]

On the M3 today, two lane were become 1, I was doing about 99km/h, car in front was going a bit slow, maybe 90km/h, instead of speeding up when I hit the brakes, because they're lane was about to end.

They put the right indicator on, and slow down even more and partially merge, fortunately there was room to switch lanes. I think he was nearly at a complete stop in a 100zone while merging.

They had right of way when merging because they were in front, but obviously they don't understand merge laws at all

well actually if the entry ramp ends in dotted line, cars on freeway have the right of way...

the law that the front car has the right to merge only applies if it is a zip merge where usually it's indicated with a sign 'Form 1 Lane' and there is no dashed/dotted lines on either lane.

however regardless of the rules, the best policy is to use common sense and do not proceed if you feel the other driver might not see you or might not know the law. never assume others know the law and never trust other driver.

[rs73]

Ok... I thought this might be hard to describe. If I'm sitting at a round about turning left and it has 2 lanes heading each way perpendicular in front of me, I can go even if there is someone coming from my RHS as long as they are in the inside lane and I stay in the left lane. They are two seperate lanes, obviously being careful and making sure they're not going to change lanes (which would technically be illegal without indicating creating a grey area) is a smart thing to do since people don't usualy respect lanes in round abouts. But most drivers think that they have to wait for the inside lane as well which means that traffic sits for about an hour at every damn round about in heavy traffic. The massive round about at Greensborough bypass is a good example.

on some cases yes you can do that (including turning left from minor road onto a major road with multiple lanes).

however if you're not sure the other driver might change lane or not, never assume it's safe until you're sure it's safe to do so...

[GD2ILA]

i reckon it's to easy to get ur license these days, they should make you drive on a freeway and in the city in the driving test. but it's easier to blame hoons and speeding than to solve the main issue of accidents which is lack of experience and driving skills.

my little sister has her license but have never done an emergency brakeing, so i took her into back streets and got her to do hard breaking in the dry (she only now actually understands the distance it takes to stop from 60km to 0km) and wet (shit herself) she never new how much the car would slide or react, but she does now. also got her to over accelerate while turning in the wet and the back end kicked out (did it in a empty carpark) now she understands why i tell her to go easy around corners when it's wet. things like these most P platers have never experienced before or have done. once again it comes back to experience and driving skills.

[omega36]

Of all the annoying things on the road, slow mergers piss me off the most. It is so dangerous to not be at speed when merging on to a highway. I will have it a couple times a week where some moron in front of me will be merging at 40-60km/h. Absolutely retarded >:|

[Fry_33]

i reckon it's to easy to get ur license these days, they should make you drive on a freeway and in the city in the driving test. but it's easier to blame hoons and speeding than to solve the main issue of accidents which is lack of experience and driving skills.

my little sister has her license but have never done an emergency brakeing, so i took her into back streets and got her to do hard breaking in the dry (she only now actually understands the distance it takes to stop from 60km to 0km) and wet (shit herself) she never new how much the car would slide or react, but she does now. also got her to over accelerate while turning in the wet and the back end kicked out (did it in a empty carpark) now she understands why i tell her to go easy around corners when it's wet. things like these most P platers have never experienced before or have done. once again it comes back to experience and driving skills.

Totally agree, I think an advanced driving course should be part of getting your license. Maybe even an additional day on a skidpan if it's not included in the first one. The first thing I thought of when reading the issue with merging onto the freeway was how many people would ever do that during a driving test? I understand that some might but during peak traffic times is another story again.

Oh and I HATE tailgaters. If someone constantly tailgates and has done an advanced driving course then obviously they weren't paying attention to stopping distances etc. I especially hate when someone tailgates you and you have a line of traffic in front of you with no where to go.. wtf is the point of getting as close to the rear of my car as possible? It's just pointless and I am just worried about them hitting my car. I think a lot of the time tailgating and going around a long line of standing traffic and sneaking in up further just comes down to attitude. Obviously they think they and their time are much more important than everyone else, but they only do it in a car as they think they'd never meet you. Would they do that in line at a supermarket or movie ticket line.. me thinks not.. Maggots!

Rant over..

[rs73]

Get a bumper/boot/rear windscreen sticker that says:

"The closer you get, the slower I drive, so BACK OFF!"

[some_cs_student]

well actually if the entry ramp ends in dotted line, cars on freeway have the right of way...

the law that the front car has the right to merge only applies if it is a zip merge where usually it's indicated with a sign 'Form 1 Lane' and there is no dashed/dotted lines on either lane.

however regardless of the rules, the best policy is to use common sense and do not proceed if you feel the other driver might not see you or might not know the law. never assume others know the law and never trust other driver.

It wasn't an on-ramp, this was 4 lanes becoming 3, his lane was ending with a dashed marker and the "left lane ends in X metres signs".

Your point is taken that this is not a zip-merge but a "give way" and while I did have right of way there was plenty of room for him to change lanes in front of me safely, until he slowed down.

[jjskyline79]

Most people over here carnt drive in the rain for shit either

Jesus yesterday you would have thought the circus was in town the amount of prize winning pricks out there

Im going to get a camera mounted on the dash its that bad tbh and share it with the world.

[ARTZ]

Most people over here carnt drive in the rain for shit either

Jesus yesterday you would have thought the circus was in town the amount of prize winning pricks out there

Im going to get a camera mounted on the dash its that bad tbh and share it with the world.

Imthinking o doing the same...i got a mount already, could show u guys some quite ammusing things...

Like the policeman i seen a while back driving whilst talking on his mobile phone, i tried to take a picture of him but my stupid phone memory was fulll.......

[xALmoN]

Get a bumper/boot/rear windscreen sticker that says:

"The closer you get, the slower I drive, so BACK OFF!"

I have one that says "you tailgate, i jam brake"