Quick question on GTiR

[DaiOni]

"not to mention they are an entry level sports car"

really? don't think so! I guess everybody's terminology differs though.

In terms of japanese sports cars, my idea of entry level is an mx5, etc. A GTST/GTT or silvia is probably the next step up. Then You have the big boys - GTR, Supra, GTO, FD Rx7. (and the real top shelf of factory cars goes to the top spec NSX, nur spec GTR...)

Where does the GTiR fit? Well its definitely a rally focused car - so I guess if it was around today, it would be a competitor for the evo or sti.

It definitely has the gear - and it definitely pulls the times. Easily one of the best cars to get fast times for low $$$ - it's been proven over and over.

The only real weak points are the gearbox, the looks (obviously subjective) and the fact that most are now missing their factory umbrella.

Definitely not an entry-level car, IMO

[sebaz]

Hi guys interesting thread.

I had one of the first road rego'd GTI-Rs in the country (mine was number 32 or something I think) and it was awesome.

In standard spec they put out factory rated 167Kw on Jap fuel.

A little different here with our fuel but close enough.

You might have seen my car, it was in hot4s for a whiteline suspension feature a while ago. Rego was NSW seb-20T

I left the engine and turbo standard. Intercooler too (lots of crew do front mount conversions to avoid heatsoak from the top mount position)

Did the suspension etc as above DMS struts etc, leather interior system etc.

Put a 2 1/2 exhaust from the turbo back and pods and fitted motec.

It put out nearly 190Kw at the wheels at 1.2 bar with octane booster added to premuim unleaded. About a 20 Degree day. Still have the dyno sheet if anyone wants it, but they can put out waaaaaay more than that if built up right. Some of the UK GTI-R owners (they did a limited production run of them to the UK, about 100 or so) go mental putting 3037 HKS turbo's on them and get over 550Kw out of them. I went to the UK and sussed it out. Awesome. I saw one at a car meet called trax 2000 at silverstone pull a 3.4sec 0-60. No shit. I was flattened.

You're right about the 4wd too, no Attessa although a Nismo electronically controlled centre diff was available for them for about a zillion dollars. hens teeth to. Also usless unless you got a homologation run car with the front LSD. the standard ones run an open front.

But my car was a rocket!! and I loved it. I used to drag bikes with it. Didn't win much but shocked the hell out of most guys I ran. Lost count of how many bikes did mono's tryin to out run me. Classic.

Drove it around the dandenong ranges as well one year with the Nissan SVD guys about 4-5 others and some GTRs.... and the GTI-Rs smashed the gtrs in the twisty stuff. I mean destroyed them!! it was hilarious.

Some may expect that, but at the time I didn't, I mean we just hosed them! We had to keep stopping and waiting for them they were so far back at one stage.

I then bought an R33 Vspec which I still have today. Owned them both for a while and comparing the two... I have to say different strokes for different folks you know.

Moded how it was my GTI-R was way faster than my standard Vspec gtr. Its common knowledge in most circles that a stock GTR feels sluggish. The GTI-R not only felt faster but actually was faster. I got one of mates to drive it and I dragged him in my GTR and he smashed me by a few lengths to mid way through 3rd where with the extra GTR puff I managed to reel him in a bit.

The GTR is a different style of drive altogether. its rear biased and heavier, power sliding, open road eating gentleman cruising.

The GTI-R was all anilihating at the lights, super chuckable, twisty stuff eating, cheese grating pleasure! Do I need mention WRX and STI eliminator! And with the right suspension can be made to handle its understeer problems.

Having said all of that when I just up'd the boost on my GTR to 1bar I was back in front by about a car length at top end of second, but off the line those things eat anything. If launched right you can get them to jump nearly a car length its awesome.

If I could, I'd have both I liked it that much, but the Vspec has got the nod for now.

Sebaz

[Spook's_Skyline]

heh, me and a mate were watching a little gtir race a motor bike from a set of lites

the bike obviously didnt know what he was in for and took off slow, the pulsar was long gone

[poyz]

Seb, awesome post

I may have a picture of this somewhere. I think yourself, Jarret, Dex were in it.

Btw: It's Dandin

Drove it around the dandenong ranges as well one year with the Nissan SVD guys about 4-5 others and some GTRs.... and the GTI-Rs smashed the gtrs in the twisty stuff. I mean destroyed them!! it was hilarious.

[predator]

Makes you wonder a little why nissan discontinued them in the early 90's. An updated version that didn't look so butt-ugly could be a popular car these days.

[poyz]

Because Nissan quit the Rally.

[knore]

Different toys for different boys.

I think if they released a new model, in such a way the S15 has upgraded the silvia, theyd probably sell pretty good.

You just dont get the same respect driving a skyline than any other car, i see it whenever i drive anywhere. Every 5min i get people at lights asking me this and that and whats this and do that etc the girls love it, ive met 3 hotties purely because of the skyline. And everywhere i go everyone looks, ive even had girls run out into the street while waiting at the lights outside the VIC in the city, and ask me to take them for a drive.. and its happened more than once

A mate of mine has a Mazda Familia GTR, which are pretty rare around here.

Before i bought my car i spent countless nights with him driving around, hardly anyone even looked at us and if they did it was more of a discraced look, mainly cos its noisy, hatchback and they dont know what it is.

Ive raced him in the familia, yes they ARE fast. But IMO they just dont cut it in the other areas a car need to have in order to be unique and have attraction.

Same with GTiRs ive raced some of them, and been beaten, but thats not all there is too a car.

(I know im talking about a familia, but there basically a GTiR)

thats my opinion anyway,

ide like 2 get one for a project car, or then again i could sell my GTSt and buy a GTR or spend $20K on my GTSt now