R33 Gts-t What Next?

[R33Nes]

Hi All

I am new at the skyline scene, trying to gather enough info so i can make better decisions

below is my dyno graph, dyno was done on 24th june 2010, car has FMIC and pod filter, car has not been tuned since

i got it, no other mods are done, is this expected power ?? is it too low for a 1997 R33 GTS-T

what should be the next steps to achive my target power figure of 250 rwkw, an estimated cost

thank you

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[Moodles2]

148kw is fairly ordinary from 8psi, check that you don't have a tiny compliance cat choking up the exhaust. Might be worth investing in a high flow catalytic converter, or a full turbo back exhaust (or a catback at least)

To chase 250kw, you are going to need to get a aftermarket ECU and get your stock turbo highflowed (then you can bump up the pressure, as you can't go higher than 10psi safely with the stock turbo wheels). Then to support 250kw, I don't think the stock injectors are up to the task, you will either need bigger injectors or a fuel pressure regulator to squeeze the most out of your existing injectors.

[R31Nismoid]

Power sounds right for factory exhaust.

Honestly - use the search function.

The ole "250rwkw - How do i get it" is a common common question.

From a bone stock car, to do it reliably with middle range parts you are looking @ $10,000 IMO.

Thats everything from better tyres, hi-flow turbo to exhaust & injectors.

[ClutchBurndout-:(]

the most rwkw you will achieve least expensively is around 170 - 180rwkw, once you get to this stage you need to start looking at turbos and injectors, ecu's etc witch is money money money.

youll get there with a 3"zorst and proper dumps/fronts, along with bumping the boost to 10-12psi (the most before you start having issues)

[R33Nes]

Update

car now makes 200rwkw

HighFlow cat

bleed valve

boost ~ 12 - 13 psi

still not sure which ones to do first

ECU, or new Turbo or Injectors

I might wait for few months and do all at once.

[TiTAN]

uh for new injectors you need the new ECU. and with a new turbo you would be silly to do it without an ecu and injectors to actually use the power potential.

[LANDSCRIBBLE]

could wait and do them all at once, or maybe buy the ECU and get it tune in the mean time, you'll save a few extra bucks on fuel and it wont smell as bad

[ARTZ]

See I'd say put the turbo in first, you want be able to boost it yet,which kind of defeats the purpose.

But at least then when you have your injectors and ecu the turbo is already done though...Thats how I did it anyway

IMO Its no use putting the ecu in first cause you,d have to get it tuned, and then pay to get it tuned again after your turbo which is wasted $$$..But putting a turbo in is pretty straight forward if its just a hi-flo, and even at 7psi will still pull harder than you are at 12psi now...

Edited July 10, 2010 by Arthur T3

[Birds]

Chequebook performance wins. Need For Speed modification selection.

[ARTZ]

Yeah spend 80k on a gtst and then go shit, why didnt i just buy a new porsche...

Edited July 10, 2010 by Arthur T3

[jjskyline79]

Because a it's overated german shite IMHO

[lookingforboost]

if you spent 80k on a GTST and it didnt beat a porsche your doning something wrong lol

[NYTSKY]

Luckily i can wipe the floor with a Porsche then

[ARTZ]

Because a it's overated german shite IMHO

I know a guy with a 70s porsche with 700,000kms on it...original engine

if you spent 80k on a GTST and it didnt beat a porsche your doning something wrong lol

True, but ive seen people do it

Luckily i can wipe the floor with a Porsche then

No doubt, but will your car pass a pit test??

My point is 80k will get you plenty of cars like an evo or better, that are ready to go...And just as fast as alot of these money pit skylines

Edited July 11, 2010 by Arthur T3

[Torques]

Because a it's overated german shite IMHO

But it's better build quality

And what's wrong with German precision?

M3s are no lame ducks either and then there are 335i with twin turbo.

Arguably nice cars!

The fun starts when you can smoke a Ferrari in the lower 12 sec range.

Edited July 11, 2010 by Torques

[t_revz]

all hobbies cost money. even collecting stamps haha.

[LANDSCRIBBLE]

80k on a GTS-t? no way.

80k on a GTR? now we're talking.

[geraus]

Well im doing 251kws on mine and i was required to do this:

ECU: Either a Nistune, PFC or VIPEC i choose PFC

Exhaust: 3inch all the way with a highflow cat

Cooler: return flow cooler

Turbo: Stock highflow with a .63 rear housing

Ignition: Splitfire coilpacks unless your factory ones are still good

induction: stock air box with a highflow panel filter or pody

Air flow: z32 or a Q45 i choose a z32

injection: i choose to highflow but i would recommend proper ones like nismo,sard 550cc's or so

fuel pump if your one is about to die, change it to a BOCH 040

do all of these and you'l be doing some good power on standard internals.

[Torques]

Hi!

Would you recommend a high flow turbo, or rather buy a 'proper' one?

Cheers,

Andrew

Well im doing 251kws on mine and i was required to do this:

ECU: Either a Nistune, PFC or VIPEC i choose PFC

Exhaust: 3inch all the way with a highflow cat

Cooler: return flow cooler

Turbo: Stock highflow with a .63 rear housing

Ignition: Splitfire coilpacks unless your factory ones are still good

induction: stock air box with a highflow panel filter or pody

Air flow: z32 or a Q45 i choose a z32

injection: i choose to highflow but i would recommend proper ones like nismo,sard 550cc's or so

fuel pump if your one is about to die, change it to a BOCH 040

do all of these and you'l be doing some good power on standard internals.

[gotRICE?]

Highflows are great. Stock location, no exhaust modding. Come with everything you need to bolt it on.

Plus, all you aussies love it when it still looks factory cos your laws are a bit on the average side. Were heading that way at a guess too. So thats a big bonus in that respect.

I dont know what they go for new these days, but i dare say they would be cheaper than the Garret/HKS equivalents?