New To The World Of Skylines

[OBY]

I'm Just keeping my eyes open for the moment. All of the advice is priceless. It's good to hear honest feedback from people that own and love these cars.

So yeah, I like the shape of the 32 the best, but they're old and have most probably been smashed. So I'll see.

Hey with this thing on friday, where and what time

[Sir Lord Van Von Vader'ham]

*Mmmmmm daydreams about being able to afford both girls*

im always dreaming bout buying two girls too...

I apologise for my error and I hope that you can find it in your heart to forgive this mis-information...

Basically all the info I've heard about the R34 turbo is that it breaks more easily than its older sibblings when boosted. Probably helped if I actually spoke to an R34 owner! But I guess a big part of it comes down to how it has been treated over its life...

dont worry, i seriously ana1y raped it

[CeJay]

I'm Just keeping my eyes open for the moment. All of the advice is priceless. It's good to hear honest feedback from people that own and love these cars.

So yeah, I like the shape of the 32 the best, but they're old and have most probably been smashed. So I'll see.

Hey with this thing on friday, where and what time

Normally near the hospice along the lake, checkout the thread for the location, normally starts around 9:45 ish

[TURISMO]

I'm bored at work, so I'm gonna pick apart Reece's argument

The R32 gearbox is the same as the R31 box and yes, its not a weak box, but it is not strong either (I define a weak gearbox as the S15 6 speed). Give it some bad treatment and it wont last very long. The R33 gearbox is a big improvement over the old one and it will definately handle more punishment than its predecessor. Its what a lot of people use for moderately powered (400kw) RWD RB26 conversions. I read line that in an old HPI once, so there Another good argument for them is that mine is still going as strong as ever after all the skid pan and trackdays that i've done over the years! I'm surprised that you didn't mention the better diff that the R32 has....

You've listed price as a negative for the R34. I dont agree. For about $8000 you can get a fairly nice, stockish R32. For an R33 your looking at about $10,000 for a good one and for an R34 your looking at about $12,000 for a good stock one if you look around a bit. A difference of $4000 isn't that big of a gap for a much newer and better all round car. Saving money harder or for a little longer would be well worth it.

I reckon the R33 handles better than the R32 in stock form. I also reckon you dont need to spend more money on handling if you own an R33. For the same money you can get nearly the same parts for both models. Most coilovers are put into the same category by manufacturers, therefore making the price nearly the same. Also springs and shocks are pretty close too. If there is a difference in price, it wont be a big one. Of course feel free to correct me if I'm way off!

And the difference in weight isn't as big as everyone is making out to be. Its around the 150Kg mark give or take, which in terms of street cars isn't a huge difference. You wont notice it when driving around town. You might notice it at Wakefield Park after you've spent some money on the suspension along with good tyres and brakes. Even then, unless your doing 1.12's or less, you still wont notice a huge difference...

OK, moving away from there now, something else to think about with the R34 is the turbo. The R32 and R33 use a ceramic wheel turbo and can be boosted higher and more easily. The R34 uses a nylon wheel turbo which is much weaker than the others and can't be boosted without running into big problems. DriftGTS had an R34 turbo on his RB20 for a short while. He ran it at 10psi for about 4 weeks before completely destroying it! Yes he gave it a hard time, but it still would have happened sooner rather than later. I've been running 11psi on my standard R33 turbo for about 2 years now and its still going strong.

My 2 cents... Again! Yes I am bored...

32's Rule that is all.....

But for information as to why they rule

I do agree that the 33 box is stronger, but synchro's still break from "quickshifts" and Rough abuse, not so much from power. My 20 box has had plenty of abuse, and so has ZCR's, and there are plenty of 200kw+ cars still going strong with 20 box's. I don't think a 20 box would last long with 250kw+ but below that its much of a muchness, and as for the diff, 32's may be better but are harder to find LSD centre's and parts, so that would be a negative

Yes the Geometry is very similar but R32 standard came with a much firmer and better shocks which have been known to last over 200,000kms, where as the 33's come with a soft shock and spring as thats what nissan thought people wanted comfort and the shocks only lasted around 50,000 hence why most standard 33's feel really rolly, which most people think their weight or size cause (but it doesn't help)

But the biggest handling gain is the Stiffness of the Chassis compared to the 33, with the 32 having the same stiffness as the 32 GT-R. Its why a 32 gts-t will do the same lap time (to a certain point) of similar power and suspension modded 32 GTR, where as the 33 GTS-T's are always behind the 32 let alone the 33 GTR

and even thoug you can find 34's for 12, I'd say more 14-15000, which is double the price of some 32's. Drop an educated 7k into a 32 and you would have a very fast and fun car

now im going to pick on lukes a bit.

really only around 50kgs between the models, dont forget to add 20kgs for autos and 20kg+ for sedans

1992 R32 GTSt = 1320kg

1997 R33 GTS25t = 1370kg

2000 R34 GT-t = 1410kg

the34 turbo was going good for around a year at 11psi, only let go after snapping (and i mean snapping) 2nd with semi's. + i got it for a case of coke'a'cola as it was on its way out.

with the extra 30kw and 30nm between 32 and 33 (flywheel) and extra 100mm wheelbase you wouldn't notice the difference in weight, as luke said

My 32 wieghs in at 1270, ZCR's 1320 with Sunroof

And the weight difference is more noticable in corner speed and braking than power

Another thing 32's tend to get 10-11ltrs per 100k, I know the 34's are better than 33's but I don't know the figure

And 100mm wheelbase difference is quite big, 33 to 32 is the same as 32 to New Mini

Oh and for model specific Bias

R31- Drift GTS

R32- Me

R33- Frink

R34- Randon I am

All of us will defend our model to death

[Sir Lord Van Von Vader'ham]

GRRRRR!

[TiTAN]

Another thing 32's tend to get 10-11ltrs per 100k, I know the 34's are better than 33's but I don't know the figure

My 33 with the 25 in it would get ~11L/100km with sensible driving, but the biggest factor is how you drive it.

[Bullet32]

My 33 with the 25 in it would get ~11L/100km with sensible driving, but the biggest factor is how you drive it.

My R32 with the RB25 in it uses almost exactly 13 - 14L per 100kms when I don't thrash it... If I really get up it everywhere then it goes up to 18 - 21L per 100km, depending on the road and weather conditions (consumption is recorded by PowerFC ECU).

I can't understand why it is so thirsty

[TiTAN]

depends how rich it is at cruise, what gear you cruise in, how hard you accelerate, how many trips are short distance.

[Bullet32]

depends how rich it is at cruise, what gear you cruise in, how hard you accelerate, how many trips are short distance.

Psst... I was actually joking...

I know exactly why it's not good on fuel.

[CeJay]

My R32 with the RB25 in it uses almost exactly 13 - 14L per 100kms when I don't thrash it... If I really get up it everywhere then it goes up to 18 - 21L per 100km, depending on the road and weather conditions (consumption is recorded by PowerFC ECU).

I can't understand why it is so thirsty

I pretty much get similar figures with my 25, I've come to think of it as normal.

[natett]

pfft i swear mine is at 21L/ 100k at idle. quarter of a tank to cruise to fyshwick and back with a couple runs to 'clean the cob-webs' on the way. 1000cc probably have something to do with it lol

[Trozzle]

or the 600 horses.

[Sir Lord Van Von Vader'ham]

the rovers doing 20-21L/H.

thats babing it.

seriously

you dont even know

[Randon_I_Am]

just got 10l/100k in mine yesterday. Mostly highway, but had quite a few squirts up macquarie pass and near areas

[tridentt150v]

I did a real test to the GC and back [up via Pacific, back via Newell] and averaged 9.66/100km and that was traffic, open road, rain, roadworks, the works. I was pretty pleased considering the power.

And I'm a 10%'er too.

[Trozzle]

10%er?

[natett]

10% throttle, granny driver?? *shrugs*

[Bullet32]

I think he means that he uses 10% Ethanol Unleaded

[Trozzle]

cheap knt. lol....what octane does e10 come in at? 91/92/95?

[TiTAN]

~95, i am thinking of getting my car tuned on it next tune. as i have the WMI to deal with any downsides at higher load.